Self-Defense Castle Doctrine Moves Forward (OH)

nbc4i.com ^ | May 28, 2008 | Denise Yost

[neverdem]

BANG!

[goldstategop]

Ted Strickland is fantastic! He's done more for gun rights in Ohio than his predecessor, RINO Bob Taft ever did. I can forgive he's a Democrat. I look forward to his signing the Castle Doctrine Bill when it arrives at his desk.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[mr_hammer]

It’s a good law, where was our Republican Govenor on this a few years ago?

Makes no sense, but I will take it.

[goldstategop]

Worthless Bob Taft never met a gun law he didn't like. Strickland has common sense and is one of the few Democrats who understands the importance of gun rights.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[Squantos]

Castle Doctrine is a good thing FOR THE GOOD GUYS acting in self defense !

It’s working FINE in Texas and I believe in Florida.

[Niteranger68]

Self defense or an excuse for murder?

I swear...I read an article about the CD a few months that started off the exact same way. Hey, if you don’t want to get “murdered”, don’t trespass.

[goldstategop]

Its just where you have a lawful right to be, whether its your home, your car, at work, or dining in a restaurant or walking on a public street and someone attacks you there, its going to be presumed your use of force to repel the attack was a lawful act of self-defense. The police and prosecution have to show it wasn't.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[joe fonebone]

could somebody please tell me why we need laws to protect our rights to defend ourselves in our homes?

[goldstategop]

We don't. Its just the previous law had the requirement you remove yourself from the premises before you could defend yourself. Its absurd and I'm glad to see its being repealed across the country.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks neverdem.

Senate Bill 184, the conceal carry Castle Doctrine, has a wide range of support in the statehouse, including backing from Ohio's top leader, NBC 4's Matt Alvarez reported. "The bill as I understand it, in its current form, is something I will support," said Gov. Ted Strickland. If made law, the bill will clear up current law when it comes to when and where you can carry a firearm and also give you the legal right to use force in your home or car against an intruder. It will be presumed that you acted in self defense unlike the original law, where citizens had to prove reasoning for taking action... The Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence calls the Castle Doctrine a "license to kill." ...FOP president Jim Gilbert said will confuse residents, saying the current affirmative defense method is more reliable.

What's Hillary say about this? What's Obama say about this?

[Nailbiter]

FOP president Jim Gilbert said will confuse residents,

Considering the fact that, citizens have as much to fear from bad guy intruders,as they do from no knock warrants cops, I can see that FOP has worries.

[Nailbiter]

Those who would take care of you (politicians,cops) do not like the competition.

[Squantos]

Yep.......Hope yer well !

Stay safe !

[neverdem]

Ted Strickland is fantastic!

I wouldn't go that far.

But to the extent that the donkeys really appreciate the Second Amendment, it really hurts the GOP with single issue pro RKBA types and small 'l' libertarians.

If Heller goes the right way on a strict scrutiny basis, which is what I hope for, the conservatives will have lost a lot, not unlike welfare reform. It won't be much of an issue anymore.

Depending on what planks are written for the GOP platform and the results of the general election, I wonder what the GOP will be standing for. It's too late to change horses now. One of the major parties should join the Whigs in the history books. I hope it's the donkeys.

[Clemenza]

If the Sullivan Laws ever get overturned, I will jump through the roof!

[Ghengis]

...But to the extent that the donkeys really appreciate the Second Amendment, it really hurts the GOP with single issue pro RKBA types and small 'l' libertarians...

That is what kills me about these big government, country club RINOs. They violate the principle of limited government and personal liberty. Then they wodner why poker players and gun owners are looking at democrats again.

Taft, Dewine and Voinivich has set the Republicans back quite a ways in Ohio.

[clee1]

The Ohio Prosecuting Attorney's Association said that current law is sufficient and homeowners are rarely charged with murder for opening fire out of fear.

Translation: "But.... but... but.... you're taking away our "right" to decide who to persecute... er... prosecute!

[Sarajevo]

could somebody please tell me why we need laws to protect our rights to defend ourselves in our homes?

We let some liberal [expletive deleted] politicians take our rights away from us, hence, we need a new law to return our rights.

[buccaneer81]

FOP president Jim Gilbert said will confuse residents, saying the current affirmative defense method is more reliable.

Yep. More reliable for a gun-grabbing county prosecutor to string up the homeowner.