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Moving Toward Energy Rationing
RCP ^ | May 30th, 2008 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 05/29/2008 10:06:12 PM PDT by The_Republican

I'm not a global warming believer. I'm not a global warming denier. I'm a global warming agnostic who believes instinctively that it can't be very good to pump lots of CO2 into the atmosphere, but is equally convinced that those who presume to know exactly where that leads are talking through their hats.

Predictions of catastrophe depend on models. Models depend on assumptions about complex planetary systems -- from ocean currents to cloud formation -- that no one fully understands. Which is why the models are inherently flawed and forever changing. The doomsday scenarios posit a cascade of events, each with a certain probability. The multiple improbability of their simultaneous occurrence renders all such predictions entirely speculative.

Yet on the basis of this speculation, environmental activists, attended by compliant scientists and opportunistic politicians, are advocating radical economic and social regulation. "The largest threat to freedom, democracy, the market economy and prosperity," warns Czech President Vaclav Klaus, "is no longer socialism. It is, instead, the ambitious, arrogant, unscrupulous ideology of environmentalism."

If you doubt the arrogance, you haven't seen that Newsweek cover story that declared the global warming debate over. Consider: If Newton's laws of motion could, after 200 years of unfailing experimental and experiential confirmation, be overthrown, it requires religious fervor to believe that global warming -- infinitely more untested, complex and speculative -- is a closed issue.

But declaring it closed has its rewards. It not only dismisses skeptics as the running dogs of reaction, i.e., of Exxon, Cheney and now Klaus. By fiat, it also hugely re-empowers the intellectual left.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: charleskrauthammer; climatechange; energypoilicy; globalwarming; greens; klaus; krauthammer; mccain; vaclavklaus
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1 posted on 05/29/2008 10:06:13 PM PDT by The_Republican
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To: The_Republican
" I'm a global warming agnostic who believes instinctively that it can't be very good to pump lots of CO2 into the atmosphere, but is equally convinced that those who presume to know exactly where that leads are talking through their hats."

All you have to do is look at the motivation of the turds pushing this issue. More control over your life coupled with the draining of your wallet. Gore has made millions from this hoax.

2 posted on 05/29/2008 10:11:33 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223
I got online for fifteen minutes tonight- here's my check...
3 posted on 05/29/2008 10:13:44 PM PDT by allmost
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To: The_Republican

“can’t be very good to pump lots of CO2 into the atmosphere,”

Why not, it is what trees and plants use to survive and provide O2.


4 posted on 05/29/2008 10:14:26 PM PDT by edcoil
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To: The_Republican
I'm a global warming agnostic who believes instinctively that it can't be very good to pump lots of CO2 into the atmosphere...

If we pumped all that CO2 into the atmosphere and it was never converted into anything and just floated around...yeah, that would be bad.

But, God, in His infinite wisdom decided to create a life-perpetuating cycle wherein that CO2 is taken in by plant life which converts it into oxygen which is a necessary component for non-plant life to ingest and (what are the odds???) is then converted back into CO2!

5 posted on 05/29/2008 10:16:44 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: allmost
"I got online for fifteen minutes tonight- here's my check..."

But was it sufficient enough for your transgression?

6 posted on 05/29/2008 10:17:48 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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"pay no attention to the little man behind the curtain."

it's amazing to see seeimgly intelligent public figures that have been hornswaggled by this absolute Bravo Sierra.

a retarded rhesus monkey could see through this scam

7 posted on 05/29/2008 10:18:39 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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There are trace amounts of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. I believe less than half of one percent.


8 posted on 05/29/2008 10:19:17 PM PDT by wastedyears (Like a bat outta Hell.)
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you cannot breath in China and India yet America is always attacked and regulated.

how about the UN saying no gas cars in China at all - they have to embrace the new technology.


9 posted on 05/29/2008 10:19:32 PM PDT by edcoil
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[ I'm a global warming agnostic who believes instinctively that it can't be very good to pump lots of CO2 into the atmosphere, ]

People and animals breath in air and exhale CO2... If the liberals take over and liquidate a couple of BILLION people that will make for a lot less CO2.. Course the average volcano will produce as much or more CO2 than many BRILLIONs of people.. add 2 volcano's, three volcano's.... like that.. There are several volcano's erupting in degrees at any given moment planetary wise.. Oh! trees(plants) LOVE CO2... They "breathe" it in and emit Oxygen.. Negating the effects of people breathing by a wide margin.. But we still have the Volcano's......

10 posted on 05/29/2008 10:19:55 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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No, it can never be enough, Soylent green is oatmeal man....
11 posted on 05/29/2008 10:21:58 PM PDT by allmost
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"it's amazing to see seeimgly intelligent public figures that have been hornswaggled by this absolute Bravo Sierra."

An oxymoron.

12 posted on 05/29/2008 10:22:30 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: edcoil
"How about the UN saying no gas cars in China at all - they have to embrace the new technology."

I'd like to think you already know the answer to that.

13 posted on 05/29/2008 10:26:21 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them (i.e., our rights) under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


14 posted on 05/29/2008 10:30:16 PM PDT by Mogollon (Vote straight GOP for congress....our only protection against Obama-Clinton, or McCain.)
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This Global Warming nonsense is total madness. The average poster on FR has more knowledge of long term climate change and global weather patterns than the typical globull warming fanatic. Typical of the global warming nut-jobs are:

1) They typically have no idea what the actual percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere is,
2) They don't know that H2O is the most potent greenhouse gas in the atmosphere,
3) They don't know that methane (CH4) is a also a more more potent greenhouse gas than CO2,
4) They are so ignorant and stupid that they do not only not know what an El Nino is(let alone what causes it and its affects), that when it is explained to them, they are still too stupid to understand that the El Nino affect is far more powerful on global weather patterns (and hence global climate change) than anything mankind could do,
5) They are generally socialists masquerading as envirotards,
6) They generally have no education on climatology or meteorology and got most of their information from the discredited Al Gore film,
7) They are always ignorant of the fact that 99% of earth's weather is directly affected by solar activity.

I could go on, but my experience from trying to have an intelligent debate with any of these retards is that facts don't matter to them. They see oil and any petroleum product as bad, they have succeeded in preventing new drilling in the U.S., and they seem to have no problem with the U.S. sending $1 trillion a year to overseas regimes, most of which would like to see the U.S. reduced to a third world state.

The truly sad part of their madness is that the U.S. has at least 5 trillion barrels of recoverable oil in oil shale & tar sands in the continental U.S. alone. If U.S. oil companies were allowed to recover this oil, it could potentially supply ALL OF THE WORLD'S OIL NEEDS FOR THE NEXT 500 YEARS!!!

Like I said at the beginning, this is madness.

15 posted on 05/29/2008 10:31:20 PM PDT by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse (especially Iran's)")
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To: wastedyears
The last number I heard on the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere was 375 parts per million, which works out to 0.0375%, which is not even a tenth of one percent! Also, I heard on Rush's show the other day that the atmosphere on Mars os 95% CO2, yet it certainly isn't very warm there!
16 posted on 05/29/2008 10:36:38 PM PDT by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse (especially Iran's)")
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To: The_Republican

Excellent opinion piece by Krauthammer. Printing it out to give to office staff.


17 posted on 05/29/2008 10:37:36 PM PDT by CedarDave (Obama: We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees ...)
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To: allmost
"No, it can never be enough."

That says it all.

18 posted on 05/29/2008 10:40:10 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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I want more green...(ARGH!)


19 posted on 05/29/2008 10:42:42 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Left2Right
"The average poster on FR has more knowledge of long term climate change and global weather patterns than the typical globull warming fanatic."

What amazes me is people believe Al Gore who has no scientific background yet his word is taken in blind faith.

20 posted on 05/29/2008 10:46:12 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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