Barack Obama Family Military Lies

No Quarter ^ | 28.05.2008 | Larry Johnson

[StopBHO]

Which is it Barack? Are you a moron or a liar? Or both? On Monday you claimed your Uncle (not further identified) help liberate Auschwitz. Since it was the Soviets who liberated Auschwitz, that left people wondering who your communist uncle was? So your campaign scrambled to get out the word–No, he meant his great uncle and he meant Buchenwald rather than Auschwitz. There, that settled it.

So I have one question–how in the hell did your uncle get to Buchenwald. Was he in a row boat? Looks like Great Uncle Charlie was in the Navy. Service records for Charles Payne show

Charles W. Payne, born 1924, enlisted 10Nov42, Navy, 6293977 Registered, order #12019, Kansas City, Wyandotte Co., Board #4

UPDATE 3 Here’s what we know for sure:

1. No Charles W. Payne enlisted in or was drafted into the Army from Kansas according to extant Kansas records 1941-43.

2. Obama’s grandmother Payne family has not C.T. Payne. Her brother was Charles W. Payne.

3. The C.T. Payne in the 89th who is said by the Kitchell 89th website to have been at the liberation of Buchenwald is not listed joining Army from Kansas 1941-43.

4. Two C.W. Paynes are listed joining Navy in 1942 frm Kansas. Charles .W. Payne born Kansas City Jan 4 1924 and died 2000 is not Obama relative.

4. Charles W. Payne who joined Navy Reno County is the likely suspect.

Still working to get final confirmation. (Is it asking for too much to get a straight, accurate answer from the Obama campaign? I guess so.)

UPDATE II: Well, the initial claim that Charles T. Payne was in the Army may not be true. An Obama supporter is claiming that there is a Charles T. Payne who was in the Army. First problem, a review of records for Kansas shows no such person. Second, this unit was not part of any liberation of Buchenwald. Records indicate:

“Concerning the service of Mr. Charles Payne: C.T. Payne was a soldier in the 89th Infantry Division. He served in the 355th Infantry Regiment, Company K. The 355th Infantry Regiment was the unit to liberate Ohrdruf.” http://www.89infdivww2.org/

This should not be so complicated. Obama’s campaign simply needs to come clean. What was your Great Uncle’s name? When was he born and when did he die? Let’s start there.

So here we have Barack apparently inventing more bullshit family history. Charles T. Payne’s unit did not liberate Buchenwald. Ohrdruf was a work camp–not a pleasant place–but not a death camp. You know what Barack, I suspect you did not have a family member anywhere near a Nazi death camp. I believe you are making this up. Rather than tell the truth straight up you embellish. Why do I think this? Because you have a record of inventing false history. How about this?

Over at Talk Left we learn that you can’t even tell the truth about your Gramps:

In West Virginia a few weeks ago, Obama said his grandfather enlisted the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, which was December, 1941. [Charleston Gazette (West Virginia) April 8, 2008, Tuesday, available on Lexis.com]

“My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain.”

Here is the WWII Kansas Veterans Index. His grandfather, Stanley A. Dunham, enlisted in the Army on June 18 1942, six months after Pearl Harbor. [Hat tip Baldilocks.)

We could start down the list of other falsehoods–e.g., your mom and dad met in Selma during a March. You keep doing this. Why?

Barack, how can someone who is supposedly so smart, can be so wrong about family history. These are not mistakes about inconsequential details. What else are you lying about?

[Grampa Dave]

“It gets worse. I have a few seasons of Dragnet on DVD. Many of the episodes show L.A. without a multi-story building for miles.”

Ah, yes, early LA right after the dinosaurs fell into the tar pits.

[AppyPappy]

My father went to enlist right after Pearl Harbor and was told to go home and wait. The Army couldn’t handle all of the incoming volunteers.

[hdstmf]

Thanks for sharing your experience with us. I’m glad you survived. I visited Dachau in 1954 and was deeply moved by seeing the death facilities. That visit has no comparision to what you went through, but I realize we should never allow it to happen again anywhere.

[vpintheak]

A LYING SACK OF CRAP, LYING TO VETERANS ON MEMORIAL DAY! If I come across the obamination I would punch him in the nose!

[hdstmf]

I liberated Daytona Beach in ‘68!

Congratulations!

The ladies of Denver liberated me in 1980!

[weegee]

Not so much a lie as misstatements that express a careless regard for their history. Then again when America is seen as a troublemaker in this world, a lack of respect for our flag, our constitution, and our troops is understandable and will continue to be a problem for the Obama campaign.

[af_vet_rr]

The operator of that site called someone who wrote for details about Obama’s great uncle a “chickenhawk” and rudely told him to go away.

If it's the e-mail I'm thinking about, he told the guy to go crawl under a rock or something along those lines.

[Rona Badger]

This photo was taken about a year ago. Is Great Uncle Charles still alive?

Article and Photo in the India Times.

US President Barack Obama's great-uncle Charles Thomas Payne (born 1925) walks together with his wife Melanie Payne in front of the entrance to the former Nazi concentration camp Buchenwald near Weimar, central Germany, Sunday, April 11, 2010. Payne is an American who served in the U.S. military during World War II as a member of the division that liberated Ohrdruf, a subcamp of the Buchenwald concentration camp. The commemoration ceremonies for the 65th anniversary of the liberation of Buchenwald takes place this weekend. On 11th April 1945, units of the 3rd US Army reached Ettersberg Hill, where the concentration camp is located.

AP Photo logo AP Photo 12 months ago.