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I Didn't Know This About Obama's Uncle, Did You? (Obama's Great Uncle: Registered 11/10/1942, Navy
Yahoo! Answers ^ | 5/28/2008 | The Wiz

Posted on 05/28/2008 8:21:52 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Here are the enlistment records of Charles W. Payne, brother of Madelyn Payne, great uncle of Obama:

Charles W. Payne, born 1924, enlisted 10 Nov '42, Navy, 6293977 REgistered, order #12019, Kansas City, Wyandotte Co., Board #4

So, Obama's great uncle liberated Buchenwald from his ship somewhere in the Pacific?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; democrats; election; elections; gaffe; jivetalkin; macacamoment; nobama; obama; obamafamily; obamatruthfile; revisionisthistory; sailors; usn; wwii
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To: Tatze

His grandmother was from Augusta Kansas, so that has been my bet all along in this. I think they got middle initial wrong in genealogy. Someone in Kansas needs to go to county clerks office in county which Augusta is in and check this out. If his great uncle is actually Charles W payne, then Obama is certainly lying, and the burden of proof will be on him to provide some sort of evidence that his great uncle served in Army rather than the Navy as it appears now.


41 posted on 05/28/2008 8:43:18 AM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Now, if Obama tells how his navy uncle liberated Auschwitz while dodging sniper fire then it'll get interesting.

or if he claims that his uncle liberated the Hanoi Hilton and was the first one to shake John McCain's hand upon being freed, that would be really interesting....

42 posted on 05/28/2008 8:45:13 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’ve long detected a phenomenon among liberals, that their utter ignorance of real history allows them to MAKE UP a history that suits them.

Works OK at cocktail parties, since none of their circles of aquaintance can correct them, being just as ignorant. The Clintons and now Obama have taken this into the national media.

Thanks be to God we have FR and the rest of the blogosphere to set the record straight. The MSM, being equally stupid, is unable to. (Not that they would.)


43 posted on 05/28/2008 8:46:44 AM PDT by Supercharged Merlin (The way to take money out of politics is to take the politics out of money !)
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To: Homer1

I have already sent the info to Drudge, lets see if he uses it or continues to cover for the messiah. Sent him Obama geneaology info showing great uncle as Charles ‘W’ Payne and Kansas WWII vets info showing only Charles W’ Paynes served in Navy. Only Charles ‘E’ Payne served in Army.


44 posted on 05/28/2008 8:47:01 AM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
I wonder if his uncle was, like his grand mother,
a typical white person.
barbra ann
45 posted on 05/28/2008 8:47:01 AM PDT by barb-tex ( A prudent man (more so for a woman) foreseeth the evil and hideth him self,)
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To: theDentist

Well, that’s exactly why Barry has him living in an attic for months after his return. He can always say that if it wasn’t true, then his crazy uncle must have lied, and then Barry’s off the hook.


46 posted on 05/28/2008 8:47:10 AM PDT by Melinda
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

http://genealogy.about.com/od/aframertrees/p/obama_two.htm

It’s Charles W. Payne


47 posted on 05/28/2008 8:48:30 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Maybe He Sailed Up The Rhine

OK, when we last left our hero, his unclegreat-uncle had liberated AuschwitzBuchenwald while in the army. Or did he?

His only Great Uncle is Charles W. Payne. It at least appears that no one by that name from Kansas served in the Army during WWII.

Charles W. Payne of Kansas, with a similar birth era, served in the Navy during WWII.

What Obama’s campaign released via first link above states he served in the Infantry. I assume it’s possible the records are wrong, or he changed branches. But I’m unaware of that as a standard practice. Perhaps it happened during WWII for manpower reasons? Otherwise, Obama’s Great Uncle would seem to have done most of his marching and liberating while at sea.

Hey, maybe the story is fake, but accurate.

You know, if I were an Obama staffer, I’d start fact checking everything he says, to try to stay ahead of the blogosphere. If this turns out to be true, that press release that the campaign put out yesterday is going to be pretty embarrassing.

[Update a few minutes later]

There’s no “Charles W. Payne” listed as having served in the 89th Infantry Division. The closest it comes is a Pfc “C. T. Payne,” which even if it’s a Charles, has the wrong middle initial.

I think that yesterday’s press release has to be considered non-operative at this point.

[Update a few minutes later]

More at The Virginian, which notes that Buchenwald was a slave labor camp, not a Jewish extermination site, so it’s less convenient than Auschwitz for political purposes:

what we appear to have is something that’s commonly known as “resume inflation.” And that’s what you get when you have a man who has no real experience. When what you have is an empty suit who is trying to pretend that there is substance there.

But what was the point of the fable? The point was really to try to connect with the American people by telling them how callous the government is about the emotional problems of its soldiers. The “uncle” is supposed to have spent six months in the attic, having experienced the sights he encountered in the liberation of Ohrdruf, an experience that may have lasted less than three hours.

The punch line is that Obama will make sure that America’s fighting men and will get all the mental care they deserve.

That’s it. That’s the punch line. That’s the reason for the fable. That’s what American fighting men are good for: a story line for a health care pitch. And the combat vet is cast in the eternal role that the Liberals have created for him: the crazy uncle in the attic. Just wait until Barack discovers another uncle whose wartime experiences drove him to drink and living in the street when he isn’t shooting up a beer hall on Saturday nights.

Yes, that’s what bothers me about this story, even if it’s true. As is usually the case with Democrats, they seem unable to talk about the military without slandering them or making them out to be victims.

http://www.transterrestrial.com/archives/2008/05/maybe_he_sailed.html


48 posted on 05/28/2008 8:48:34 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Obama's Great Uncle: Registered 11/10/1942, Navy

It's not hard to figure out!

Here's a pic of the submarine Barry's uncle was on, climbing the rocks during the invasion of Germany. Eventually this submarine made it all the way to Auschwitz, where then Barry's uncle jumped out and helped free the imprisoned Jews.

VISUAL PROOF OF THE STORY, BAYBEE!


49 posted on 05/28/2008 8:49:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“If Obama completely made up this story, I’ll be one of the first ones to pounce on it. However, lets get all of the facts out there before we determine that he was completely lying.”

Could it be that his Navy uncle was a medic serving with the Marines and thusly could have been in Europe?

One way or the other, he has an “out”. He can simply say, “Well, it was a family story. That’s what I was always told. If it’s inaccurate then the family lied to me.”


50 posted on 05/28/2008 8:49:54 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron ("Terisn" is my new favorite word. Thank you, Allegra.)
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To: Tatze

Did you check the Red Army records?............


51 posted on 05/28/2008 8:49:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (NOBODY MOVE!!!!.......I dropped me brain............................)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Personally, I think his great uncle was the 1996 sniper in Bosnia, shooting at Hillary.


52 posted on 05/28/2008 8:50:09 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Wait’ll his lies that he is pro-American or pushing an agenda (Marxism) that America “agrees” with are exposed to voters.

Wait’ll the company he keeps with bigots, liars, demagogues, and terrorists (Ayers wished he’d done more) is exposed.


53 posted on 05/28/2008 8:50:42 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I just added to the answer....name :Jslims.
Hope you like it :)
That is if they don’t take it down of course.


54 posted on 05/28/2008 8:51:38 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (If You Support America - Thank a Soldier; If You Support Al-Qaeda - Thank a Democrat!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
However, lets get all of the facts out there before we determine that he was completely lying.

I must disagree.

Barack Hussein Obama made a public claim on reflected WWII military glory as part of his political campaign. Credible doubts have been voiced. It is now Obama's responsibility to prove his claim.

If Obama does not prove his claim in a timely fashion, which means right now, then he is a liar. Just like Hillary Clinton. Just like John Kerry.

These people have no honor. It is time to treat them as the dishonorable scum they are.

Semper Fi!

55 posted on 05/28/2008 8:51:55 AM PDT by DakotaGator
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To: Always Right

he used PT 109!


56 posted on 05/28/2008 8:51:55 AM PDT by hecht
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To: Arthur McGowan

Either that, or he apparently lied. There are two Charles W. Paynes in WWII from Kansas. Both served in the Navy.


57 posted on 05/28/2008 8:52:25 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

58 posted on 05/28/2008 8:52:58 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: boycott
Hussein could say his uncle landed on the moon and the media would try to make it true.

One small step for Chuck Payne, one giant leap in Hussein Obama's web of lies.

59 posted on 05/28/2008 8:52:58 AM PDT by Tarkus2040 ("Anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about." --Barry Farber)
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To: El Gran Salseron

I thought he would have used that line yesterday but he dug the hole a little deeper by adding to the “story”.
Whatever nonsense he spews forth as an explanation will be gladly accepted by his fawning media.


60 posted on 05/28/2008 8:53:36 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (If You Support America - Thank a Soldier; If You Support Al-Qaeda - Thank a Democrat!)
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