Posted on 05/28/2008 5:40:19 AM PDT by Merrittk
What Obama's campaign released via first link above states he served in the Infantry. I assume it's possible the records are wrong, or he changed branches. But I'm unaware of that as a standard practice. Perhaps it happened during WWII for manpower reasons? Otherwise, Obama's Great Uncle would seem to have done most of his marching and liberating while at sea.
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Even if Obama isn’t lying and was told this yarn by family members, it shows how susceptible he is to B.S. It would be a shame if he were to start a war based on someone else’s lies.
lol...PUTTING Buchenwald in the middle of the North Sea, eh?
He doesn't want a holy war. He'll advance the War On Poverty to include Iran.
The genealogy website says Charles W as well. His grandmother was from Augusta though, and Charles E was from there so unless they were cousins, I think his great uncle was Charles E. If not, this story will explode from mistaken on Buchenwald to outright lie. Unless of course the navy liberated the camp with an invasion from the Moselle River.
“Obama is starting to resemble the John Lovitz character on SNL, Tommy Flanagan, the Pathological Liar.”
Or Hellary KKKlinton.
But his walk on water ability is from the Black side, not the White - who were all just typical white people.
The Democrats flip flop over this every presidential election. In 1992 Bush's military service was not of issue and Bill Clinton's draft dodging was downplayed in the MSM. In 1996 Dole's military service was not of issue and Bill Clinton's draft dodging was downplayed in the MSM. In 2000 Gore's military service (and fine gun handling skillz) was contrasted against Bush's National Guard service. In 2004 Kerry's "heroic" military service was contrasted against Bush's possible AWOL activity (with no mention of the treasonous activities of Kerry immediately after his service, where he lied to Congress, met to negotiate with the enemy, and was a member of an organization that plotted to assassinate elected members of Congress). AND the Democrats had the b*lls to stand Kerry shoulder to shoulder with Clinton on the stump and say that Bush didn't have the military experience or honesty to be President. And this time around they are saying that years of captivity in a POW camp means you "didn't really" see the war. Also that you may have mental issues that could affect your leadership.
He was just using the uncle story to build up his street creds with the “typical white people”.
Notice that Obama never talks about his Kenyan relatives - except for a romaticized view of his father.
ReformedLiberal Posts: 1,223 Registered: 9/11/04 |
Re: Barack's War Torn Uncle Posted: May 27, 2008 6:16 PM (5 of 32) |
"The 89th Infantry Division in World War II was the first unit to actually come upon a Nazi concentration camp. The discovery of the Ohrdruf camp, by the 89th Infantry Division, is memorialized in the Holocaust Museum located in Washington, DC. Ohrdruf was a work camp, not an extermination camp, but the difference is difficult to discern. Prisoners were literally worked to death and disposed of by burning in incinerators, which was the most "cost-effective method". As the Allies approached, panic set in for the guards. Those inmates who couldn't walk were shot. Others were forced to march towards a "safe haven", with most of them dying in the effort. It was a horrible and unbelievable scene which seared its way into one's memory. " http://www.89infdivww2.org/ohrdruf/index.htm |
T. A. Gardner Posts: 2,947 Registered: 8/12/05 |
Re: Barack's War Torn Uncle Posted: May 27, 2008 6:17 PM (6 of 32) |
The only camp liberated by the 89th was Ohrdruf. It was a slave labor camp not a death camp. Most of the prisoners there were Eastern Europeans, mainly Poles. Its only connection to Buchenwald was that it was a administrative satellite of that camp. The 89th subsequently headed south into Germany and Czechoslovakia missing Buchenwald. |
I’m sure his uncle will love the publicity his (past?)mental problem is getting. Obama can’t help throwing his relatives under the bus.
Run Hillaryous Run! There’s a new liar on the block. He’s clean, articulate...a “just words” kinda guy and is beating the suitpants off of you.
If Obama had ANY relative who helped liberate ANY German prison camp I’ll give him a pass. Whether it was actually a death camp, labor camp, or concentration camp seems to be a rather small nit to pick. Old stories you hear from the family are not the most accurate or reliable.
I know the websites say Charles W. I just see a Charles E from the same small town that Obamas granny grew up in, Augusta Kansas. I looked it up last night on kansas wwII website and just assumed it was Charles E.. Needs to be dug into though because Barry may be telling tall tales akin to Clinton ducking sniper fire in Bosnia. He may have just made this whole thing up as he did with much of the stuff in his “autobiography”
Naw he’ll send the Peace Corps in first.
Payne, Charles E. | Inducted 9 June 1943, Army | 37531353 | Registered, order # V11125 | Augusta, Butler Co. (Board # 2) |
Payne, Charles W. | Enlisted , Navy | 6287657 | Registered, order # 11111 | Hutchinson, Reno Co. (Board # 3) | |
Payne, Charles W. | Enlisted 10 November 1942, Navy | 6293977 | Registered, order # 12017 | Kansas City, Wyandotte Co. (Board # 4) |
he is a liar and anti american donkey jerk.
he is not fit to command.
According to this site, his uncle is Charles W. Payne
http://urbangrounds.com/2008/05/28/was-obamas-great-uncle-even-in-the-army-during-wwii/
http://www.ronulrich.com/rfuged/fam20584.htm
It would not surprise me if it is an outright lie.
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