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1 posted on 05/28/2008 4:21:43 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophelia_(character)

[snip] A possible historical source for Ophelia is Katherine Hamlet, a young woman who fell into the Avon river and died in December 1579. Though it was eventually concluded that she had overbalanced while carrying some heavy pails, rumors that she was suffering from a broken heart were considered plausible enough for an inquest to be conducted into whether her death was a suicide. It is possible that Shakespeare - sixteen at the time of the death - recalled the romantic tragedy in his creation of the character of Ophelia. [end]

(Katherine HAMLET? Gee, the story must have been known all over Italy. A man with the same name as Shakespeare’s father hanged himself in a nearby town, in the same general time frame)


44 posted on 05/28/2008 8:52:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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Could be Shakespeare knew this woman and published some of her works for her. He obtained material from many sources and reworked it for his performance company, in which he was one of the actors.


45 posted on 05/28/2008 8:52:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (You are reading this now)
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To: CarrotAndStick; camle; Alkhin; Professional Engineer; katana; Mr. Silverback; MadIvan; ...
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DAVE: --only everything's ... opposite?
DEBBIE: Oh, I don't know if everything's opposite. It seems like that.
DAVE: So you come from a female-orientated society?
DEBBIE: Well, it's not exactly female-orientated anymore, not since the sixties. You know, the equal-rights-for-men marches. You know, they burned their jockstraps and all that.
DAVE: Stop!
DEBBIE: Haven't you read "The Male Eunuch" by Jeremy Greer?
DAVE: So, your history is parallel to ours as well? So, hang on... erm, who was the first person on the moon?
DEBBIE: Nellie Armstrong.
LISTER: NELLIE Armstrong? So... who wrote Hamlet?
ARLENE: (Entering with ARNOLD) Will Shakespeare.
DAVE: Ah, so he was a bloke.
DEBBIE: No, she was a woman. Wilma Shakespeare.
ARLENE: Yeah, she wrote all the greats: "Racheal the Third," "The Taming of the Shrimp."

46 posted on 05/28/2008 8:52:57 AM PDT by null and void (Capitalism=>Audi, BMW, Porsche, Volkswagon. |WALL| Communism=>Trabi. Any questions?)
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An epic battle on Homer’s gender
The Australian | July 03, 2006 | Dalya Alberge (The London Times)
Posted on 07/02/2006 7:46:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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47 posted on 05/28/2008 8:53:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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Well I’m an expert too and this woman is FOS. Revisionist history will continue until all vestiges of Western Culture is obliterated & demeaned or We stand up and say enough and GFY.


56 posted on 05/28/2008 9:16:49 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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What exactly is the evidence that Shakespeare was a Jewish woman? Hmmmm...

Romeo's mother didn't think Juliet was good enough for him.

Macbeth went into his father's business and his wife drove him crazy.

When Petruchio met Katharina, he is heard to remark: "Funny, you don't look Shrewish..."

58 posted on 05/28/2008 9:25:27 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace Is Not The Question.)
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Why don’t we ask, “Who was not Shakespeare?” Modern scholarship will throw everything but the kitchen sink at you in hopes that something sticks (to mix metaphors). Because nobody at the time had ever recorded seeing Shakespeare write anything he will always be a mystery, and the fact that people have not seen him work also remains a mystery. If only there could be something from Marlowe or Johnson such as, “That scribbler Shakespeare writing such dreck, looting every good idea from the past as his own, writing about that infernal prince Hamlet who we all know to be a parody of Bacon and his Ophelia as that sluttish trollop bar maid that dotes on him at the tavern... why can’t he just give it up! He has a very poor muse. The stuff will never last the coarse of time.”


60 posted on 05/28/2008 9:48:13 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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Mark Twain: “Shakespeare didn’t write any of his plays. It was someone with the same name.”


65 posted on 05/28/2008 10:02:10 AM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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Didn’t homosexuals try to claim him as “one of their own”, a while back?

This is going to throw a *major* wrench into their gears.


67 posted on 05/28/2008 10:21:48 AM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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He is so convinced of Bassano's authorship that he formed a theater company, The Dark Lady Players, to bring out, through performance, the true meanings of the plays as, he argues, Bassano intended them.

Hmmmm...I wonder what this Jewish authoress had in mind as the "true meaning" of Shylock in "The Merchant of Venice?"

68 posted on 05/28/2008 10:35:53 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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ROFLOL..... ok


69 posted on 05/28/2008 11:21:59 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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Big deal. Ben Franklin was actually a very rare bipedal walrus.

Actually, I think the works of Shakespeare were actually written by his identical twin brother who, coincidentally, was also named William.
71 posted on 05/28/2008 1:08:26 PM PDT by Antoninus (John 6:54)
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There is a cottage industry of academics who profess to find and expose the ‘true author’ of Shakespeare’s works.

While numerous alternative candidates have been proposed, major claimants have included Francis Bacon, Christopher Marlowe, Sir Henry Neville, William Stanley (6th Earl of Derby) and Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford.

With a Master’s in Literature, I’ve read these theories with some interest. All of the above have better credentials and are more plausible in my opinion than the Dark Lady theory.


73 posted on 05/28/2008 1:23:44 PM PDT by wildbill
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“It is I, Hamlet the Danish Girl.”


77 posted on 05/28/2008 2:00:25 PM PDT by firebrand
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So who was “the dark lady”?


82 posted on 05/28/2008 4:42:17 PM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.; & Barry/Barack has two faces.)
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Someone must be despirate to write a thesis.


83 posted on 05/28/2008 4:44:30 PM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.; & Barry/Barack has two faces.)
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Someone must be despirate to write a thesis.


84 posted on 05/28/2008 4:44:30 PM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.; & Barry/Barack has two faces.)
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That’s funny - he didn’t look Druish...


86 posted on 05/28/2008 4:45:38 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Friends with umbrellas are outstanding in the rain.)
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A.L. Rowse, scholar, raconteur, bore, spent a lot of time arguing that Emilia Lanier was the "Dark Lady" of Shakespeare's sonnets, but this is a new wrinkle.

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87 posted on 05/28/2008 4:48:16 PM PDT by x
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