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Atom-smashing lab says experiment to start end-June [scofs at fear of black hole destroying Earth]
AP via Yahoo! ^ | 5/27/08 | AFP

Posted on 05/27/2008 12:53:48 PM PDT by Brilliant

European particle physics laboratory CERN is set to launch its gigantic experiment which hopes to throw light on the origins of the universe within a month, the laboratory's head said Tuesday.

If things go according to plan, the greatest experiment in the history of particle physics could unveil a sub-atomic component, the Higgs Boson, known as "the God Particle."

The "Higgs," named after the eminent British physicist, Peter Higgs, who first proposed it in 1964, would fill a gaping hole in the benchmark theory for understanding the physical cosmos.

Other work on the so-called Large Hadron Collider (LHC) could explain dark matter and dark energy -- strange phenomena that, stunned astrophysicists discovered a few years ago, account for 96 percent of the universe.

The LHC device "will be in working order by the end of June," CERN director general Robert Aymar told journalists.

A gamble costing six billion Swiss francs (almost six billion dollars, 3.9 billion euros) that has harnessed the labours of more than 2,000 physicists from nearly three dozen countries, the LHC is the biggest, most powerful high-energy particle accelerator ever built.

Beams of hydrogen protons will whizz around at near-light speed in opposite directions until, bent by powerful superconducting magnets, they will smash together in four bus-sized detector chambers, where they will be annihilated at temperatures hotter than the sun.

But Aymar played down hopes of any immediate discoveries once the LHC is set in motion.

"We will accumulate data for two years and it will take a lot of time to interpret," he said.

He also scoffed at fears that the massive experiment could create a black hole with potentially devastating consequences for life on Earth.

"The system is totally safe. There is nothing to fear," he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: atom; blackholes; chickenlittle; eu; higgs; higgsboson; physics; science; stringtheory
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To: Brilliant

My pet rock comes thru again! Shazam


21 posted on 05/27/2008 1:31:57 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Brilliant

bump


22 posted on 05/27/2008 1:34:13 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: stuartcr
What happens if the ‘Hawking radiation’ theory is incorrect, and it doesn’t evaporate?

We're in big trouble, but not because of the micro black hole.

This is rooted in the basics of quantum mechanics, and if that 'quits working' then the sun will go out and a host of other bad things will happen. The problem in detecting Hawking radiation is not that the theory is shaky, but that the conditions to detect it are hard to come by. You need a black hole, for starters, and close enough that you can detect the Hawking radiation - which ends up looking like photons, and so gets lost in lots and lots of other photons between us and the nearest black holes we can detect (by observing effects on other bodies, of course).

I think the problem is just the opposite - at the highest energy states they can reach with the LHC, any black hole will evaporate so fast we won't even know it was there.
23 posted on 05/27/2008 1:44:21 PM PDT by Phlyer
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To: C19fan

Another point that CERN itself has made is that the earth has already been bombarded by ultra-high energy cosmic rays for billions of years, with no apparent bad effects. These cosmic rays are essentially the same thing as what CERN produces, but with much higher energy. So why don’t we just study those? Their collisions happen at the edge of space, and occur randomly, uncontrolled.


24 posted on 05/27/2008 1:57:13 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Brilliant
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25 posted on 05/27/2008 2:18:43 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: Brilliant
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Not that I think spending all that money on an atom smasher is such a good idea anyway...
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This thing will have more uses than just "atom smashing". Just a guess, but whatever those uses are I am sure they are highly classified. Think unified theory and quantum mechanics applications.
26 posted on 05/27/2008 2:38:57 PM PDT by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: Brilliant

Build it on the Moon.


27 posted on 05/27/2008 3:33:47 PM PDT by Dagny&Hank
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To: BenLurkin; neverdem; NormsRevenge

“I said ‘Bud Light’.”


28 posted on 06/01/2008 5:08:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

thanks, bfl


29 posted on 06/01/2008 6:04:31 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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[old joke punchline] "Nothing can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong..."

30 posted on 06/01/2008 9:33:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Brilliant
June is turning out to be a very "interesting" month. In the sense of the old curse, "May you live in interesting times".

The Supreme Court will be handing down it's decision in "Heller" indicating whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right, and if it does, do DC's guns laws violate that right?

The Democrats will probably finally decide whether Socialist (Heavy) Clinton or Marxist Obama will be their nominee to go up against Socialist (light) McCain.

The Congress may refuse to further fund the War on Terror by not passing a supplemental appropriation causing massive layoffs of civilian support personnel and support contractors, as well as cancellation or shelving of several development programs. (The military is already asking permission to transfer money from other accounts so they can pay the troops, but that will only work through mid July)

And now, to end the madness perhaps, a Black Hole may devour the Earth. (Although I highly doubt it. The Fates are not that munificent).

31 posted on 06/01/2008 10:27:03 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Brilliant
"The system is totally safe. There is nothing to fear," he said.

After considering all the things Europeans have been wrong about...socialism, multiculturalism, man made global warming...I'm starting to worry!

32 posted on 06/01/2008 10:32:18 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: DungeonMaster
An atom smasher is to a black hole as a match is to the sun.

Unlike an active star, there doesn't appear to be any limit to how small a black hole may be. Well there sort of is, but it is due to quantum mechanical effects, and would be quite small indeed. In fact that's part of the argument for this thing not being dangerous. The smaller a black hole is, the faster it "evaporates", due to higher tidal forces near it's event horizon, according to Hawking at least. Since the LHC could only create very small black holes, they would be expected to evaporate faster than they could eat. I hope he is right, and expect that he is.

33 posted on 06/01/2008 10:36:13 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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