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To: Centurion2000

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/warspeech.pdf

In his 2002 anti-war speech, Obama said the following:

“My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain.”

No mention of Uncle Red...


71 posted on 05/27/2008 12:38:05 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

no mention of Uncle Red and he mentioned Auschwitz in ‘02. He is just an empty suit.


75 posted on 05/27/2008 12:41:59 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: ltc8k6

I kinda expect the Obama campaign will come out saying he mispoke and then try to sugar coat the truth. And the MSM will follow this Pied Piper as he plays his tune. They are all (demo)rats being led to a watery grave.


77 posted on 05/27/2008 12:42:47 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: ltc8k6

In that speech, he repeatedly says he is against dumb war and then goes on to trash Rove and others on the basis of what they are doing to the middle class. How does he take that personal attack on figures of the Bush administration to justify his assertion that the Iraq war was a “dumb war”?

We’d been waging a continued war with Saddam since 1991. Saddam Hussein repeatedly violated the terms of the peace agreement. Saddam was at war. We took it hot again in 1998. And Bill Clinton said that regardless of who was the next president, they would be left to deal with the issue.

If he is going to make a case, he needs to back it up with facts as to “why” it is a “dumb war” and why the tyranny of Saddam Hussein should have continued and why we should have permitted Saddam to CONTINUE to fund international terrorism (like he was doing in Israel).


79 posted on 05/27/2008 12:45:41 PM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: ltc8k6

Actually, we can see from the records that the line about signing up the day after Pearl Harbor was a lie as well, since Stanley didn’t enlist until June.

The truth would be admirable enough, but Obama had to polish it up to put his borrowed honour at the head of the line.

If the part about Pearl Harbor is a lie, I think we’re within our rights to find out what in that speech was true.


102 posted on 05/27/2008 1:27:40 PM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: ltc8k6
"he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka"

Good find - and this is from 2002, and he says it's his grandfather hearing accounts from fellow soldiers - who of course did not first enter Auschwitz and Treblinka in particular since they were in the Soviet zone of conquest in Poland (Treblinka was actually shut down near the end of 1943 because they had murdered just about all of the Polish Jews left and then there was a prisoner revolt and the Nazis just wiped out anyone that was left - so there was not too much for the Soviets to "liberate" at Treblinka by 1945).

I think that what's most likely happening is that Obama is plugging in any concentration camp name(s) he can think of to whatever he may heard from his grandfather or anyone in school. He's just not knowledgeable enough to realize that there were all these different concentration camps in different locations and that the US Army did not liberate all of them (the Brits liberated Bergen-Belsen for instance). Obama's brain thinks "Nazi concentration camp" and just plugs in whatever name he can come up with to tell the story.
111 posted on 05/27/2008 1:43:00 PM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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To: ltc8k6

Brings this to mind:
Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to loose
Nothing, and that’s all that Bobby left me, yeah
But feeling good was easy Lord when he sang the blues
Hey feeling good was good enough for me, hmm-mm
Good enough for me and Bobby McGee.


153 posted on 05/27/2008 3:29:19 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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