Posted on 05/27/2008 8:29:00 AM PDT by shrinkermd
Yep. You CAN reduce it greatly. Right now the costs of control are way below the cost of leaving the border unsecured. Way below - and Americans know it. We’re not xenophobic, we want our joint property protected. Presidente Arbusto wouldn’t let squatters onto his land, why the hell should we? Hell, I’ve been to Mexico and speak Spanish, so I know why a Mexican would want to come here. I don’t blame them for wanting a better life. That said, it’s not in our best long-term interests to let them come. Particularly when they don’t assimilate.
>>>>The replies crowd the mind.
Alaska Pipeline: 2 years permitting, 3 years actual construction of 700 miles from Barrow to Valdez. 7x24x365 in temps of -50F to 95F, in mosquito infested tundra, across the Brooks Range, at a cost of $28 billion (2006 dollars) with 7,000 workers.
You’re right Carl, it can’t be done. /sarc
The day we start to prosecute those who employ illegals, this problem will start to get fixed. We have the tools to do it now. Just not the will.
The question is what is one willing to do to secure a given border. We won't do here what we do there.
His a** belongs to the corporations pure and simple. He probably owes his entire political life to them. Yes, I know that is what a "Repbulican" president is all about, but there are a bunch of us 'social-conservatives,' who care about many other things than just the mighty buck, who thought this guy cared about the country (not just through corporations) but other things like the invasion of illegals and the long term effects on this country. etc
Karl Rove was a 'genius' only because he was able to dupe the social-conservatives into voting for the Reps in large numbers. Of course, now we know, He and the rest, do not care for those issues at heart, that was just a 'technique,' to increase the vote.
GUESS WHAT... the jig is up! Social conservatives will not support the GOP like that in a long while to come.
No work = self deportation.
Rove makes sense. Good video.
This problem existed long before Rove and Bush, at that, this problem goes back to when Rove was in diapers. If anything, they are guilty of allowing the status quo to continue. To decry them the enemy also damns everyone in control from after Eisenhower’s presidency. The fact is, they don’t see this as an invasion. Just running around screaming and making them the enemy(sic) does absolutely nothing to fix the problem. At that, all it does is keep lawmakers from listening to the arguments as it sounds like knee jerk reacting. If you want to do something, start talking to your lawmakers about the costs of identity theft and fraud. Support and vote in lawmakers who believe in security. Most importantly, stop doing business with those who hire illegals and make it clear why you have stopped doing business with them.
We won't, and we don't.
>>>>I know why a Mexican would want to come here. I don’t blame them for wanting a better life
I want to live on a Tahitian island with permanent residency. I want to buy a nice hut on the beach and eat mangos and bananas and fresh seafood every day.
But the Tahitian government says I have to jump through a lot of hoops and wait for my turn in line. Not to mention the application fees and hassles. I don’t like that.
How about I just land my fishing boat at night, build my shack, and live there without visa, passport, ID, permission, or anything else. Etc etc etc.
You think the Tahitians will like that? After all, I “just want a better life”.
Let’s all keep in mind what the creator of this thread is - a DU’er.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2014926/posts?page=52#52
“Yes, you are right it is not clear. Therefore, we should label it junk science, castigate McCain and get a “real conservative” to represent us. How about Limbaugh. While McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton, Rush was suffering from a pilonidal cyst that prevented him from being drafted—at least that is what Wikipedia once said.
We need more conservatives with pilonidal cysts, football injuries and other accouterments of manliness.”
>>>>>>Social conservatives will not support the GOP like that in a long while to come.
“SOCONS” - who by the way are NOT conservatives in the Barry Goldwater or Ronald Reagan sense - will fall for any Elmer Gantry coming around the corner.
Even today they are still supporting the Huckster, who is Elmer Gantry reincarnate.
And they’re split the vote to leave us with McQueeg as the nominee.
Social Conservatives are the death of the GOP and perhaps of the conservative movement in America.
It’s that hypen that gives them away.
“A good deal of what is posted on FR is based on misreading of the facts or outright xenophobia.”
Baloney.
You are attempting to impute the racist canard upon Americans who merely expect the government to do its job and enforce the laws. I won’t even dignify that smear with a response.
I didn’t even listen to the recording. If Carl Rove, and George Bush and their pinhead buddies infesting Congress can’t enforce the laws of America, they should resign.
No nation which can’t guarentee the security of its borders will long survive as an independent nation. That idiot Rove and the others should pick up a history book and read it.
“This problem existed long before Rove and Bush, at that, this problem goes back to when Rove was in diapers. If anything, they are guilty of allowing the status quo to continue.”
The border should have been shut down hard on 9/12/01, and remained so.
LOL! Karl Rove? A guy who has made a lifelong career as a political barker and nothing else is going to dictate what we can or can’t do to secure our borders? LOL! He needs to get off his fat ass, quit attending all of those Chamber of Commerce all you can eat buffet luncheons, mow his own yard for once in his pasty white boy life and break a fat man’s sweat for starters. The exercise would do him good, provided he doesn’t drop dead from a coronary.
Bill1952: Outright lie.
Anyone who postulates any such absolute as “cannot” about anything that is, in fact, physically possible, does not deserve our time to read further.
And so, he shall not have it.
“We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We’re a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.
Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.
For years our nation has debated this change — some have
praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.”
George Bush, campaign speech in Miami, August 25, 2000.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=16425
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