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Democratic split will dog Obama in Missouri
Kansas City Star ^ | May 25th, 2008 | E. THOMAS McCLANAHAN

Posted on 05/25/2008 12:50:48 PM PDT by The_Republican

Barack Obama’s run for the White House has already made history, and not merely because of his race. He came out of nowhere to upset the supposedly unbeatable Hillary Clinton. Now the nomination seems within his grasp.

Can he win in November? That may come down to whether he can win in Missouri.

Missouri is one of the nation’s leading bellwether states; it has picked the winner in every presidential contest since 1900 with the exception of 1956, when state voters went for Adlai Stevenson rather than President Eisenhower.

For Obama, taking Missouri will be tough, but not impossible.

The deep divisions that have appeared in the Democratic electorate in the Obama-Clinton battle were apparent in Missouri in February, when the state’s primary was conducted. Obama won by a single percentage point.

The question is whether the white, working-class Missouri Democrats who voted for Clinton will turn out for Obama in November. George Connor, acting head of the Political Science Department at Missouri State University, has his doubts.

“I don’t think everybody in outstate Missouri who voted for Clinton is automatically going to vote for Obama,” he said. “That will make it harder for him to carry the state.”

For Missouri Democrats, the key to victory in a statewide race is running up big totals in Kansas City and St. Louis, while diluting Republican margins in outstate counties. Thanks to the evenly balanced character of the state, decisive wins for either party are rare.

In 2002, former Republican Sen. Jim Talent beat incumbent Sen. Jean Carnahan, a Democrat. Margin of victory: a mere 21,000 votes.

Four years later, Claire McCaskill, a Democrat, unseated Talent in another squeaker. Margin of victory: 48,000 votes out of 2.1 million cast.

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demsplit; hillary; mo2008; obama

1 posted on 05/25/2008 12:50:49 PM PDT by The_Republican
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To: The_Republican

Osamabama takes Missouri if and only if there is fraud in StL and KC on an unprecedented scale.


2 posted on 05/25/2008 12:58:44 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: The_Republican

Democratic split will dog Obama in Missouri

I SURE HOPE SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 05/25/2008 1:04:36 PM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull Warming: The Greatest Hoax Since Y 2 K !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: SAJ

Like fraud on an unprecedented scale in DNC politics would be a surprise, or something new?


4 posted on 05/25/2008 1:05:23 PM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull Warming: The Greatest Hoax Since Y 2 K !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: SAJ

It’s happened before. 2000 in St.louis.


5 posted on 05/25/2008 1:08:46 PM PDT by painter
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To: The_Republican

When the dust settles barack curious george mcgovern will have been beaten so badly it will be useless to point to any one state as the place that cost him victory. Missouri will be just another loss.


6 posted on 05/25/2008 1:28:16 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: painter

How well I know it. My personal attorney was head of the StL Election Board that year. The stories out of that election, geez...


7 posted on 05/25/2008 2:16:20 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: buffyt
Not at all. I estimate the fraud would have to be 20-30% larger than the fruad in 2000, though.

And MO has a 'Pubbie governor this time. Blunt takes no shjt from anyone, and I'd wager that includes Federal judges.

8 posted on 05/25/2008 2:20:00 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: SAJ

It would take an awful lot to be “unprecedented.”


9 posted on 05/25/2008 2:33:45 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus
Not so sure about that. The gross population of the high-fraud areas -- north St. Louis and south KC -- has declined pretty sharply since 2000. Going to be rather difficult to fraud up the numbers seriously.

Believe this, though. Any of these princincts turn up with some outrageous historical voter participation percentages, and Gov. Blunt won't wait until morning to file the appropriate federal suits. The race pimps are already screaming about his poll monitoring ideas...which, of course, means they are quite sound.

10 posted on 05/25/2008 2:39:33 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: The_Republican

“For Obama, taking Missouri will be tough, but not impossible. “

wanna bet? He’ll get beat like a rented Missouri mule...


11 posted on 05/25/2008 3:03:50 PM PDT by Keith (ANY REPUBLICAN in 2008 -- it's about defeating lefty surrender-monkeys like Obama)
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To: SAJ
I don’t think everybody in outstate Missouri

This attitude that those of us who do not live in kc or st louis are “outstate” it is like they think we are less than they are or just a bunch of country bumpkins this attitude should be talked about would make a nice rnc add if you do not live in big city you are outstate.

12 posted on 05/25/2008 3:51:32 PM PDT by mouser (run the rats out its the only hope we have)
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To: The_Republican

Obama will have the dead vote, the felon vote, the multiple-precinct vote, the late-night-because-a-judge-orders-it-vote, and the pet vote.

The Republican will have the patriot vote.

Yeah, I said it.


13 posted on 05/25/2008 4:07:47 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: jmaroneps37
When the dust settles barack curious george mcgovern will have been beaten so badly it will be useless to point to any one state as the place that cost him victory. Missouri will be just another loss.

From your lips to God's ears.

14 posted on 05/25/2008 4:08:30 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: mouser
Hey, don't cry at me -- I didn't use the word ''outstate''.

Tell it to George Connor, the guy quoted in the article.

15 posted on 05/25/2008 4:32:00 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: SAJ

Sounds good. I had read that as a rule of thumb in a presidential election the Republican had to get a million more actual legitimate votes than the Democrat in order to break even in the official count. Maybe that number will be a little smaller this year.


16 posted on 05/25/2008 4:52:30 PM PDT by arthurus
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17 posted on 05/25/2008 9:58:37 PM PDT by cyberella
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