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Obama Not What He Appears to Be [Rush Limbaugh]
Rush Limbaugh Website ^ | May 23, 2008 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 05/24/2008 7:23:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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RUSH: Snerdley, I'm still not sure I read that right. Obama is down in Miami, he's talking to the Cuban exile community, they hate the Castros, they despise the Castros, they want the Castros overthrown, they want their island nation back. They don't want the embargo lifted, and Obama is telling them that we need to have diplomatic relations with no preconditions with the Castros and he's still standing there? They have not run him out of the building?

JOHNNY DONOVAN: Live from the Southern Command in sunny south Florida via New York City, it's Open Line Friday!

RUSH: He then said something about democracy is more than just the ballot box. I really think this dweeb is making it up as he goes along. I don't even think he's writing this stuff. Axelrod or somebody else is writing. I think he's not on the prompter, that's why he makes so many gaffes. He forgets what other people have written for him and what he said, and he goes out there and when he's on his own he makes all these gaffes. He made some kind of gaffe about the Cuban exile community, which is why he's down there trying to save face and fix it. But I can't imagine what he said to them fixed it. I didn't hear any applause. The sound was down, I was watching on closed-captioning. But I know the Cuban exile community and the last thing they want to hear is diplomatic relations with the Castros without any preconditions. He's saying this on the heels of putting his foot in his mouth over Iran on the same basis?

Something about this guy is not right. There's something about this that doesn't jibe. This guy, two years ago in the United States Senate barely could find the men's room. He was still preoccupied with trying to figure out how to ingratiate himself with the Chicago machine politics. He didn't do one thing of any significance in the Senate. He'd had more "I don't care" votes or "I'm not here" votes or "present" votes or whatever in the Illinois Senate. Somebody's gotta be behind this. None of this Obama campaign makes any sense whatsoever, particularly him.

Let's talk about Senator McCain here for just a second. Senator McCain has thrown two preachers under the bus now. Last night in Stockton, California, McCain held a press conference.

MCCAIN: I just think that the statement is crazy and unacceptable and certainly Reverend Hagee, Pastor Hagee is entitled to his views. I've never been in Pastor Hagee's church or Pastor Parsley's church. I didn't attend their church for 20 years and I'm not a member of their church. I received their endorsement, which did not mean that I endorsed their views. But the comments made most recently by Pastor Hagee are just too much.

RUSH: Okay, so McCain has disavowed the endorsement of both Pastor Hagee and Pastor Rod Parsley, yet drawing a distinction, hey, neither of these two guys were my pastor. This drew a response from Barack Obama last night in Boca Raton.

OBAMA: You know, John McCain is having to deal with his Hagee, who said stuff that is mind-boggling. I don't attribute those statements to John McCain. Nobody -- nobody thinks that McCain believes that stuff. And for McCain to then suggest that, you know, every single statement that was made by somebody is somehow attributable to me is just wrong.

RUSH: Senator -- (laughing) -- you don't get it, you don't get it. You chose your pastor! You were in that church for 20 years. This nutcase baptized your two crumb crunchers. Your wife is out spouting in speeches some of the very philosophies espoused by Reverend Wright. I'm sorry. I know I'm not supposed to talk about his wife. Well, slap me. Bottom line here is that this guy is getting awfully defensive. You know, he's trying to basically cleanse himself here with a flawed comparison between these two preachers that endorsed McCain. He knows this association with Jeremiah Wright has upset him. Now, there's even a bigger, bigger contretemps going up between McCain and Obama. Obama went to Washington yesterday to vote on the new GI bill, and he voted against it. McCain was not there. He was somewhere out campaigning. So this is on the Senate floor yesterday. This is Obama about McCain.

OBAMA: I can't understand why he would line up behind the president in his opposition to this GI bill. I can't believe why he believes it's too generous to our veterans. I could not disagree with him and the president more on this issue. There are many issues that lend themselves to partisan posturing, but giving our veterans the chance to go to college should not be one of them.

RUSH: Well, this did not sit well with Senator McCain, who again in Stockton, California, last night, held a press conference and said this to reporters.

MCCAIN: I don't know if the American people will judge Senator Obama as to whether he has military experience or not, but I think they may judge him as to whether he has experience and knowledge to make the kind of judgment necessary to care for our veterans.

RUSH: Now, this is a little bit like the John Kerry defense. You didn't serve, so don't criticize me. That only works for Democrats, Senator. Ask Bob Dole. He tried it against Bill Clinton, too. Jonathan Martin at The Politico has written up this episode: "Jim Webb's GI bill passed the Senate bipartisan majority 75-22. Clinton, Obama were both there, McCain in California on the fundraising trail. Obama used the opportunity to once again tie his rival to the president. Obama said, 'I respect McCain's service to our country, he's one of those heroes of which I speak. But I can't understand why he'd line up behind the president in opposition to this bill,'" what you just heard him say. "The McCain campaign responded by issuing a sharply worded and lengthy statement in McCain's name. McCain notes his support for an alternative to the Webb measure, but points out his own military service and points out Obama's lack thereof."

Part of the statement: "It is typical but no less offensive that Senator Obama uses the Senate floor to take cheap shots at an opponent and easy advantage of an issue he has less than zero understanding of. Let me say first in response to Senator Obama, running for president is different than serving as president. The office comes with responsibilities so serious that the occupant can't always take the politically easy route without hurting the country he's sworn to defend. Unlike Senator Obama, my admiration, respect, and deep gratitude for America's veterans is something more than a convenient campaign pledge. I think I've earned the right to make that claim." And at the end of the statement, he says, "Perhaps if Senator Obama would take the time and the trouble to understand this issue, he would learn to debate an honest disagreement respectfully, but as Obama always does, he prefers impugning the motives of his opponent and exploiting a thoughtful difference of opinion to advance his own ambitions. If that's how he would behave as president, the country would regret his election." That is Senator McCain speaking about Obama in this little dust-up that Obama started on the Senate floor. Joe Biden on MSNBC Live this morning, cohost Willie Geist was talking to him. "Senator, essentially Obama has questioned McCain for not backing up this bill. How do you see these two guys coming down on this?"

BIDEN: There's a difference between an ad hominem argument and a logical response. A logical fallacy is an ad hominem argument. That's basically what John engaged in. It's a little bit like my saying, if we're having a debate about standards for trucking safety on the highways and I voted against making the rules more stringent, and one of my colleagues got up and said, "You know, Senator Biden's wrong on this, this is gonna make people less safe," and I said, "Look, my wife and daughter were killed by a tractor-trailer, don't you tell me what it is to deal with safety." That's an ad hominem argument. That has nothing to do with the response. It's not right; it's not fair; it's kind of beneath us.

RUSH: Ohhh! All of McCain's buddies are now lining up against him. All of his Democrat buddies are lining up against him, accusing him of ad hominem attacks. Now, this GI bill, just for the sake of filling you in on this, this GI bill, ladies and gentlemen, is opposed by the Pentagon because it is so loaded with short-term benefits. They fear that it will hurt troop levels because it gives troops incentives to leave the service! Plus there's a whole bunch of domestic spending tacked onto this thing that is irrelevant to the GI bill, and this bill was designed specifically for many reasons, one of them is to give Obama cover on the fact that he is an anti-military dove who has joined the "let's lose" chorus. So they're constructing things in the Senate so he can vote for to make it look like he's this big hawk and big pro-military guy that loves the troops when in fact he's voted every chance he could to de-fund them or has joined the chorus of people saying they can't win or they have lost. Ad hominem argument. And then finally yesterday, Union City, California, here is Senator McCain on Senator Obama.

MCCAIN: I admire and respect Senator Obama. For a young man with very little experience, he's done very well. So I appreciate, with his very, very great lack of experience and knowledge of the issues, he has been very successful.

RUSH: Now, you can read this two ways. You know, you can react to this two ways. What is your reaction to it, Snerdley? Okay, okay. Snerdley's reaction is that this is a great way to take a shot. It was funny and lighthearted, and it was a great way to take a shot at the fact that Obama has no experience. Others are comparing it to Ronaldus Magnus and his reply to Walter F. Mondull in their debate, when Reagan said, "I'm not going to make an issue of my opponent's youth and inexperience," in the second of three debates they had, because in the first debate, Reagan seemed overprepared, and after that debate everybody raised the age question again on Reagan and other things, so he came back with that line in the next debate, and it quelled it. Other people are reacting to this, "Wow, Obama's really gotten under his skin. This is a cheap, overly sensitive put-down and an example of McCain's temper." One analogy is that it's like when an 80-year-old lady says to a 50-year-old employee, "Young man. Young man." It's a put-down.

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RUSH: By the way, the word I was looking for to describe Obama when I was talking about this campaign of his, he's a sock puppet, folks. He is somebody's stooge. He's a marionette, somebody is pulling his strings. I don't know if it's Reverend Wright; I don't know if it's George Soros; I don't know if it's a combination of the two. I don't know if it's his racist grandmother working behind the scenes to get even for whatever happened to her. I don't know what it is. But I do know that it isn't what it appears to be. His campaign and he are not what they appear to be.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2008; blueturban; election; elections; johnhofmeister; mccain; obama; rush; talkradio
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To: the invisib1e hand
...that cold-blooded, lifeless look in his face is the only thing that's genuine about him...


21 posted on 05/24/2008 9:26:30 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: ETL

” long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology.”

You mean like the “Quiet Riots” oabamama spoke of last year in a conclave of black leaders -where he thought it was safe to speak freely...

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Obama.Blacks.Quiet.2.337535.html

Pray for our country


22 posted on 05/24/2008 9:42:57 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: Fred Nerks

well, there he looks like he’s smoke a few too many doobies in his life.


23 posted on 05/24/2008 9:55:11 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The road to hell is paved with euphemisms.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How does a guy two years out of the Illinois statehouse run for the presidency and win the democratic nomination?

I don't understand why the key person behind Obama's meteoric rise hasn't been mentioned yet:  Oprah Winfrey.

Oprah gave Obama instant credibility; she anointed him as the Savior of the Democratic party and the United States of America.

Without Oprah, Obama would still be searching for the Senate restroom.

24 posted on 05/24/2008 10:10:40 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And if Al Capone were somehow elected prez. we’re sopposed to just sit back and let him run? Same with dillenger etc. Forget the constitution. P-ss on it.


25 posted on 05/24/2008 10:16:17 PM PDT by Waco
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I've been saying for months-- this guy comes out of nowhere, with a ready-made smoothly running 50 State organization and a 100 million dollar bankroll supposedly collected from internet geeks at 5$ a throw, and continuing to collect 30-40 million a month. Bullsh*t.

The man is a front for a well-financed cadre of anti-American totalitarian marxists.

He who has eyes let him see.

26 posted on 05/24/2008 10:20:23 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: All
Six-pack of your favorite beverage if you can take this picture and PShop Obama's hand so it's grabbing his crotch. Yes, it's for a joke. :-)


27 posted on 05/24/2008 10:23:02 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy is the finest collection of hops and barley money can buy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ha bin ladin called something off? Just in time for the holiday??


28 posted on 05/24/2008 10:35:45 PM PDT by Waco
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To: All

Do you know that the good Rev Jackson so hated the white race that as a young man working in a restaurant, he spit in the food of whites? He admitted it. Google it.


29 posted on 05/25/2008 2:36:37 AM PDT by cyberella
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To: All

.Check out this awesome video:
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The same kind of terrorists who support Obama did this:
http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/
Never apologize for them.
Never appease them.
Never forget.


30 posted on 05/25/2008 2:37:06 AM PDT by cyberella
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is it just me, or in that photo, doesn’t Hillary look like the typical “evil H.R. Lady”, while Obama looks like a cubicle rat at a call center, and Bill Richardson looks like a security guard at a medium-sized high-rise office building?!

No more calls, we have a winner!
31 posted on 05/25/2008 2:38:34 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Wakka-ding-hoy - battle cry of the Plexus Rangers!)
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To: maine-iac7; All
From the 2007 article you referenced regarding Hurricane Katrina: "Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Tuesday that the Bush administration has done nothing to defuse a "quiet riot" among blacks that threatens to erupt just as riots in Los Angeles did 15 years ago."

He's obviously talking about the infamous '92 Rodney King riots where over 50 people were killed with over a billion dollars in property damage. But more importantly, he sounds like he's JUSTIFYING the rioters actions! Strange that this comes up when just yesterday I posted something on democrat rep, Maxine Waters, who had also rationized the '92 LA riots. Here is that post below. And it. like Rev Wright's Black Liberation Theology, also involved communist revolution. (scroll down to the parts about the '92 riots and the RCP/Revolutionary Communist Party):

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The committee to which democrat congresswoman, Maxine Waters of California, made her already 'famous' remarks (House Judiciary Committee/special panel) is chaired by none other than John Conyers of Michigan. Both he and Waters are signers of the Revolutionary Communist Party call to "Drive Out the Bush Regime".

See: "Endorsers of the Call to Drive Out the Bush Regime Include". (Conyers' endorsement appears right after Ward Churchill's. Waters' is further down. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson Jr's are also there) http://worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2538&Itemid=2

Fact: World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime is a Maoist-revolutionary movement initiated and controlled by the Revolutionary Communist Party. (scroll down the list that appears (after clicking link) to find the World Can't Wait organization --rwor.org is the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party):
http://rwor.org/a/rwlink/links.htm

And from David Horowitz's FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: World Can't Wait (WCW)

*Revolutionary communist movement that stages protests against the Bush administration

*Organizes college and high-school students

*Founded in June 2005 by Charles Clark Kissinger, a longtime leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7213

Here's the Revolutionary Communist Party (see link) boasting of a FULL PAGE 'World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime' ad of their's which actually appeared in the New York Slimes. (either "rwor.org" or "revcom.us" takes you to the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party). The NY Times has since allowed several additional full-page RCP/WCW ads to run.
http://www.rwor.org/a/028/who-hated-bush-ad.htm

On Oct 5, 2006, democrat chair of the House Judiciary Committee, GAVE A SPEECH to the World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime organization! (the "anti-war" front for the Revolutionary Communist Party) Here's full-page coverage of it from the WCW website:
http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3114&Itemid=243

From the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party (revcom.us or rwor.org) :
"Create Public Opinion, Seize Power! We are preparing minds and organizing forces for the time when there is a major crack in the system, whenever it comes and wherever it comes from: an opening that makes it possible to bring the future Revolutionary Army of the Proletariat (R.A.P.) into the field and wage a revolutionary armed struggle that actually has a chance of winning. And we have said that building our party itself is the most important part of organizing forces for revolution. This is true now, and it is true looking forward to the creation of that future R.A.P. and the waging of that armed struggle.":
http://revcom.us/a/v20/1000-1009/1000/barw.htm

Also from the Revolutionary Communist Party website: "Tearing Up the U.S. Paper Tiger in Korea: How 300,000 Chinese Troops Snuck into Korea and Kicked the Ass of the U.S. Armed Forces" RW #1059, June 18, 2000:
http://rwor.org/a/v22/1052-059/1059/korea.htm

Revolution interview with "Peace Mom" Cindy Sheehan: October 29, 2005:
('Revolution' is the newspaper of the Revolutionary Communist Party)
http://rwor.org/a/021/cindy-sheehan-interview.htm

Los Angeles riots of 1992:
"[Maxine] Waters has been criticized for her comments regarding the Los Angeles riots of 1992. In defense of the people that looted stores and damaged property, Waters said 'If you call it a riot it sounds like it was just a bunch of crazy people who went out and did bad things for no reason. I maintain it was somewhat understandable, if not acceptable. So I call it a rebellion.'[5] She also said it was 'a spontaneous reaction to a lot of injustice' and 'The anger in my district is righteous. I'm just as angry as they are.' She responded to the mass looting of Korean-owned stores by saying: 'There were mothers who took this as an opportunity to take some milk, to take some bread, to take some shoes. They are not crooks. Everybody in the street was not a thug or a hood.'"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxine_Waters#Los_Angeles_riots_of_1992

From David Horowitz's FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
"Throughout its history, one of RCP's [Revolutionary Communist Party] principal objectives has been to foment civil unrest in the United States. The most notable example of such efforts occurred on April 29, 1992, when RCP members looted and trashed the downtown and government districts of Los Angeles, triggering the infamous Rodney King riots. During the days immediately preceding the violence, RCP -- which maintained close ties to the L.A. gangs known as the Crips and the Bloods -- had circulated throughout South Central Los Angeles a leaflet featuring a statement by RCP National Spokesman Carl Dix, titled 'It's Right To Rebel' -- a quote popularized by Mao Zedong.

Encouraged by Dix, RCP activists helped lead the riots that would leave 58 people dead, more than 2,300 people injured, some 5,300 buildings burned, and $1 billion in property damaged or destroyed. On the ten-year anniversary of the rioting, RCP member Joseph Veale fondly recalled the violence as 'the most beautiful, the most heroic civil action in the history of the United States.'"
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6197

"The RCP upheld the 1992 sometimes-violent unrest in Los Angeles and nationally as a 'rebellion' in the aftermath of the Rodney King verdicts. Then-LAPD chief Daryl Gates alleged that the RCP was involved in the 'riots'. Los Angeles has long been one of the RCP's larger and more active branches. William 'Mobile' Shaw was a local leader who recently passed and received public commendation from the party."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Communist_Party%2C_USA

Democrat congresswoman Maxine Waters' 'slip of the tongue' yesterday before a House panel:
VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaY3LhJ-IQ

Congresswoman threatens to nationalize oil industry Maxine Waters warns Shell president in House committee hearing
May 23, 2008

In a grilling of oil executives by a House panel yesterday, Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., threatened to nationalize the industry if it didn't do something about the rising prices at the pump.

A report by Fox News, captured in a clip posted on YouTube.com, showed Waters challenging the president of Shell Oil, John Hofmeister, to guarantee the prices consumers pay will go down if the oil companies are allowed to drill wherever they want off of U.S. shores.

Hofmeister replied: "I can guarantee to the American people, because of the inaction of the United States Congress, ever-increasing prices unless the demand comes down."

The Shell exec said paying $5 at the pump "will look like a very low price in the years to come if we are prohibited from finding new reserves, new opportunities to increase supplies."

Waters responded, in part, "And guess what this liberal would be all about. This liberal will be about socializing … uh, um. …"

The congresswoman paused to collect her thoughts [for about 5-6 seconds this went on, while her colleagues behind her laughed].

"...would be about, basically, taking over, and the government running all of your companies. …"

The oil executives responded, according to Fox News, by saying they've seen this before, in Hugo Chavez's Venezuela.

Congresswoman threatens to nationalize oil industry Maxine Waters warns Shell president in House committee hearing:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65111

Also here:
Maxine Waters: "Socialize the Oil Companies":
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/05/23/maxine-waters-socialize-the-oil-companies/

32 posted on 05/25/2008 2:46:07 AM PDT by ETL
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To: SilverandBlack
Welcome to FR! Glad to see our SoFlo Cubans joining in on the discussion. I think you'll find a good home here.

I miss some of our long time contributors from the community, hopefully they still read or post under another name. "Luis Gonzalez" and "RMDupree" were deeply involved in a lot of debate over the years. Sadly, over the the years they've moved on or became too busy to post.

Anyway, enjoy the debate...and again, Welcome!

33 posted on 05/25/2008 2:56:18 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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My Dad has connections in the Illinois republican party. They gave up in 04 when Obama paid off a reporter to get Jack Ryan’s divorce files.

They have stuff on him up the whazoo that will come out between August and November.

I think Hillary may have planted this guy to make her look good but he beat her.

Who ever would think so many people would be wishing for Hillary. I can’t stand her but she’d make a better President than Obama and if my candidate doesn’t win I want the best possible alternative to.


34 posted on 05/25/2008 4:32:34 AM PDT by mccainvoterinobamaville
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, first post. I’m a college guy who is learning a lot about how Marxists take over things. I’m worried about Obama. What do you think he will do in office? How far can he go? Not like Pelosi isn’t lock step with him. Just my thoughts


35 posted on 05/25/2008 4:32:35 AM PDT by joshreads111
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think you are maybe right. There is definitely something fishy going on with him. There is also something going on with his raising all that money so easily during these kind of times.


36 posted on 05/25/2008 6:21:23 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: the invisib1e hand

...”Obama is a puppet of radical Islamic money.”...

I have had that thought in the back of my brain for some time. There is truth to Obama as a muslim - one is a muslim if one’s father was a muslim. Obama’s declaration of being a Christian makes him an apostate. But, according to islam, it’s acceptable for a muslim to lie or misrepresent himself to non-muslims (us) for the good of islam. It’s way past time that Obama is investigated, but we can;t count on the so-called MSM.


37 posted on 05/25/2008 11:15:37 AM PDT by astounded (The Democrat Party is a Clear and Present Danger to the USA)
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To: maine-iac7

In the CBS2 video, this charlatan called to attention and effusively praised his anti-white, anti-American “pastor”, the so-called “Reverend” Jeremiah Wright, Jr. Why has this not got more airplay in the wake of the Wright controversy? Further, Obama affects a black lilt and black preacher speaking style that evoked little concern, contrary to when Hillary Clinton did so. There is a huge, disturbing double standard being applied to Obama, it is evident and it signals danger to the US. He must be stopped.


38 posted on 05/25/2008 11:24:17 AM PDT by astounded (The Democrat Party is a Clear and Present Danger to the USA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama Not What He Appears to Be [Rush Limbaugh]

I sure hope Obama does not appear to be Rush Limbaugh.

I know Limbaugh is fake, but I'd hate to see Obama start talking about his glorious naked body.

It's gay enough when Limbaugh does it.

39 posted on 05/25/2008 11:26:57 AM PDT by humblegunner (Che is Gay)
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To: astounded
He wouldn't need to be a muslim to be backed by muslim money. He'd just need to be an arrogant, self-righteous, ambitious climber who's found a wellspring of dollars seeking the same, knowing that such would be a pliable patsy.

So he's qualified, imho.

40 posted on 05/25/2008 12:15:43 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The road to hell is paved with euphemisms.)
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