Posted on 05/24/2008 4:50:41 PM PDT by anymouse
This is a lawyer’s dream of people suing the government.
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I bet they wont have standing before the court...
Well we will just take you at your word, you don't have any.
The $4100 per month? Quick math $1.7 million/400
If this is over-ruled and child abuse is proved then yeah...go for it. Make that compound a women/childrens shelter for abused women all over the state to seek shelter and education.
Since most of the men are going to be facing criminal charges, I think not, and every woman there that wants to keep her children will never get on a witness stand. Remember any time you file, the other side gets to put you on the witness stand. Let the cult try it??
Pure, bs from someone that dose not know how it works.
ROFLOL
Much easier, just as Hildawg!
From the article..
The remarks came after the panel heard testimony that providing foster care, Medicaid coverage and casework for the children from the YFZ (Yearning For Zion) Ranch will likely cost taxpayers more than $1.7 million a month for as long as they are in state custody.
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But in your # 26 to me you said..
“But according to the state of Texas, it costs $4,100 PER CHILD PER MONTH to care for and feed them.”
and in your # to me you said..
“The $4100 per month? Quick math $1.7 million/400”
I understand that the math works like that...
However Medicare..Which they were not getting...no doctors visits ...no shots etc..
And other care is included besides food...
The children are going to a proper school...
(I’ve been informed that even illegal aliens have a right to go to school)
And the young boys of 11 and 12 and up are not forced to work like dogs and slaves and have their wages stolen from them...and then tossed out to fend for themselves..
And the girls are not terrorized by empty futures which only entail being part of a harem as a sex slave at a VERY young age..
The children have some kind of stability right now...
And are not in danger...
And are not subjected to emotionless, robotron women ...
“one’s responsibility to society,”
Thank you. You have explained your position perfectly. You are a socialist, not an individualist.
Since when did Christians (not Universalist/Unitarians) swallow the humanist position that one’s responsibility was to society. The Christians I know believe their responsibility is to God, and that their relationship to others is one of benevolence, not interference in their lives. Show me one place in the New Testament where Paul, James, Peter, or the Gospel writers ever advocated using the government to interfere in other’s lives, even when they did not agree with how they lived their lives.
In the present case, nothing has been proved about anyone being abused and you want to use force to confiscate their property—earned by hard work, which evidently you do not value.
I’m sorry, your claim to be a Christian is totally unconvincing.
Hank
This is a mess. The state is going to be hit with lawsuits into the tens if not hundreds of millions, and the legislature is worried about who’s going to pay for the raid? I don’t agree with the FLDS on any level. I think it’s creepy, but if the state can’t prove abuse, Texans are going to pay.
You’re right. They need to prove abuse in every home or they are open to lawsuits since they operated outside the law.
This cult can well afford to pay for the support of “their” children...
Fortunately, my 10 kids don’t cost me $750 per child per day.
The costs of the raid will quickly pale next to the settlements the taxpayers will be paying to the FLDS families for taking their children. How ironic that they will be using tax money to fund the very religion they want to shut down.
Agreed.
“This cult can well afford to pay for the support of “their” children...”
There is a far cry between children who’ve been removed via due process, and children who were rounded up as an act of religious persecution and public hysteria. I know that in the states where I’ve lived, it takes a ton of reasons (all proved to a judge) before a child is removed from the home, and a lot of court hearings before the child is placed into foster care.
The cost of the raid will pale in comparison to the amount paid out by the State of Texas to this group when the lawsuits hit. If even one parent can show that their children were removed w/o due process and due cause, then you’re gonna see that cost magnified by an order of ten.
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