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"No, it's not a Democrat or Republican issue; it's a liberal and conservative issue. And there are those on the conservative side who understand that the first step to justice is an acknowledgment of guilt. Just not many and not very vocal."
1 posted on 05/23/2008 4:20:42 PM PDT by mojito
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The author of the piece is Ron Rosenbaum. Would you be so good as to correct this for me?
2 posted on 05/23/2008 4:22:26 PM PDT by mojito
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Liberals never like being held to their own standards & go to great lengths to convince others why they should be exempt.

They fool no one but themselves.

3 posted on 05/23/2008 4:25:25 PM PDT by skeeter
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Imagine the gnashing of teeth if someone said that they were voting for Obama because he is black - as a way to weaken the argument for affirmative action and to help delegitimize the notion of institutionalized racism.
4 posted on 05/23/2008 4:29:06 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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Go ahead and laugh at the moron -- I do, and openly -- but: here, laid out in plain and straightforward fashion, is how the MSM will be outlining things 24/7, from the 'Rat convention onward; and why Obama will be lifted into office come 11/04, eiding atop a mountainous tsunami of collectivist "... voting this way proves I'm really not such a bad person, after all!"

Camelot II. Brought to you by the people who gave you "Just An Honest, Straight-Shootin' Senator From Hope, Arkansas." Bookmark it.

5 posted on 05/23/2008 4:30:01 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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I’ve got liberal guilt for all those years we denied women the right to vote. That means I must vote Hillary. On the other hand, I’m feeling kinda guilty about slavery, so that means Obama’s my guy. Wait a minute! Obama is only half black, so that means he only gets 1/2 my guilt vote. Gosh! This voting liberal guilt thing is tough!


6 posted on 05/23/2008 4:30:32 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Republican Who Will NOT Vote McCain!)
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I don’t have a shameful racial past.

I refuse to accept the “original sin” of slavery.


7 posted on 05/23/2008 4:31:29 PM PDT by LouD
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Barry Obama could be the Halle Berry of RAT politics.

Both are only half-black so that makes them still white enough to be acceptable. And once Barry has been nominated, the RATS won't have to even contemplate nominating a black (half or otherwise) for another half century.

That being said, I know the RATS are going to make race the issue if McCain dares to poll better than Obama so I would absolutely love it if McCain would pick somebody like Michael Steele to be his Vice-President.

8 posted on 05/23/2008 4:34:25 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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Not one of us is a slave owner today

Obama's Kenyan ancestors were never enslaved, at least by Americans. The only thing Obama has in common with Black Americans is the color of his father's skin. How would electing him redeem anything about America's past sins? If liberals want to redeem their own racism, they can apologize to Clarence Thomas. Until they do that, they can STFU.

9 posted on 05/23/2008 4:39:28 PM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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10 posted on 05/23/2008 4:43:41 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Obama's issues would be better resolved in a psychotherapists office, than in the Oval Office))))
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Considering that the Democrat Party, historically, has been virtually completely responsible for perpetuating slavery, implementing Jim Crow, birthing the KKK, and largely opposing Civil Rights legislation up to and through the early 1960s, I would say they have a lot to be guilty about.

But that’s no reason to saddle the whole country with a President whose single “qualification” is his blackness.

Personally, I think the Democratic Party should just empty its coffers and pony up reparations, and put their whole shameless history to bed.


11 posted on 05/23/2008 4:50:48 PM PDT by Maceman (If you're not getting a tax cut, you're getting a pay cut.)
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What a silly column by an unserious writer.

He pretends to be serious but fails to analyze the most obvious and significant point: “Liberal guilt” is subject to ridicule when it is excessive and/or mis-directed and/or absurdly histrionic.

Sure, it is morally appropriate (and important) to feel guilt or shame when you do something wrong - more important still to do anything within your power to correct or make amends for your mis-behavior.

However, no one living now or in recent generations bore ANY responsiblity for slavery, and no one living now or in recent generations suffered any enslavement (speaking of the USA, since of course there are some Arab/Muslim areas in Africa and the Middle East that HAVE had slavery very recently).

Conservatives get sick of “liberal guilt” because it is a crude bludgeon used to try to force contemporary and future society to bear responsibility for long-ago historical injustices that WE did not commit and are not responsible for. MY family on both sides only came to the USA in recent decades from extremely modest, simple circumstances in countries that had nothing to do with American slavery. Even if I were responsible for my ancestors, and I am NOT, they had nothing to do with it.

Also, the idea of voting for OBAMA as some kind of expiation of liberal guilt, a man who does not descend from anyone who was enslaved in America, who in fact is a child of privelege whose upbringing was quite pampered compared to my own, is absurd. Obama’s life has in every way been quite comfortable and priveleged. Voting for him solely because his genetic father (the reckless philandering sperm donor who abandoned him by age 2) happened to be from Kenya, as a way to salve the guilty conscience of American liberals about American history, is absurdity piled upon absurdity.

Look, if someone thinks he has the best ideas and is the best potential president, those are reasons to vote for him..... but to vote on the basis of his skin color (either for or against) is absurd and foolish.


12 posted on 05/23/2008 4:54:00 PM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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Guilt is shameful when you make a STUPID decision based on PERCEIVED guilt that you are wallowing in, to atone for a sin that isn’t YOURS and that was atoned for long ago and far away. By others. In the Civil War.

Obsequious pandering, assuaging guilt by voting ‘correctly’ — it is your (the liberals’) religion. It is not true guilt. It is not true atonement. And it makes YOUR problem MINE, buddy. Because if BO is elected President, so that YOU feel better, I will feel worse. And then I will have to work MY feelings out on you liberals. And you will not like it.


13 posted on 05/23/2008 4:57:37 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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Ron Rosebaum

14 posted on 05/23/2008 5:01:47 PM PDT by kcvl
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Liberals hate minorities they don’t feel superior to.

There is a good chance that the day after Obama is nominated, when the Republican desert him, his poll numbers will drop between 10 and 20 percent overnight.

However, they will continue on a downward slope, because Democrats just plain don’t like minorities, culminating on election day, when the poll watchers will be shocked, shocked!, that non-black voters will say they have voted for Obama, but will instead have voted for McCain.

The only question now is if they will bother to go to the polls at all.


15 posted on 05/23/2008 5:02:23 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Since when has guilt become shameful?

It isn't guilt. It's a form of appeasement. It's not possible to have genuine guilt for something you did not do. Liberal whites want to appease envious blacks. Not only is appeasement shameful but it doesn't work.

16 posted on 05/23/2008 5:03:57 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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Dear liberal, I didn’t do anything to anyone, I don’t feel guilty for anything I haven’t done. Sane people do not feel guilty over things they have not done. It is the insane, the liberal, the dope, who feels guilt over things out of their control. I suggest you pray to God, through Jesus Christ for wisdom and guidance.


17 posted on 05/23/2008 5:04:30 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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OK, it’s wrong to vote against Obama just because he’s black. I can buy that.

Then tell me why it’s not equally wrong to vote for him for the same reason? Oh, it must be those outstanding qualifications for the job. /s/


19 posted on 05/23/2008 5:10:01 PM PDT by henkster (Obama '08: A 3rd world state, here & now!)
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guy needs a lesson on the difference between shame & guilt


21 posted on 05/23/2008 5:44:38 PM PDT by stylin19a
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But what if redeeming our shameful racial past is one factor for some?

I don't think it's about guilt anymore. That's just an act. It's about the lib's revenge. That's why the libs nominated someone so heinous as Obama. They knew that today's PC culture would assault anyone with sincere reservations.

22 posted on 05/23/2008 6:06:33 PM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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Democrats do have some reasons for feeling guilty about race. They were the party that fought for slavery,imposed the Jim Crow laws and opposed civil rights legislation. They are right to feel guilty.


23 posted on 05/23/2008 6:42:27 PM PDT by adversarial (the pros and cons of voting for)
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