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Court: Texas had no right to take polygamists' kids 3 minutes ago
AP via Yahoo ^ | 5/22/08

Posted on 05/22/2008 10:46:31 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan

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To: atruelady

Lady, this is America where you do not have to PROVE a Damn thing to the state. The burden of proof rests 100% upon the state and they must prove it BEYOND any reasonable doubt.

THAT is America.

Or the America SOME of us are fighting for...

As it clearly seems to NOT be your kind of America.


761 posted on 05/22/2008 6:41:21 PM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: UCANSEE2
It seems the threads start off with domination by one ‘side’ , then the other, then it kinda mellows out into decent debate.

Here's to "decent debate," my FRiend.

762 posted on 05/22/2008 6:41:31 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

There is a wonderful old addage:

FOLLOW THE MONEY!


763 posted on 05/22/2008 6:41:47 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: UCANSEE2
LOL. The facts are coming out and it doesn't support the wholesale operation and you call it muddy? LMAO. There is no mud as you are finding out. This was a violation on a magnitude of epic proportions. And there are emotional government supporters that would give up every freedom in this country based on rumor, innuendo, and hypocrisy. Where are you at? Still backing the government God? For the children? Rights be damned?
764 posted on 05/22/2008 6:41:48 PM PDT by commonguymd (Let the socialists duke it out. All three of them.)
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To: southern rock
I just want to keep the state away from children.

Yeah, so do I... but I'm not sure which is worse here. And I'm leaning against the cult.

765 posted on 05/22/2008 6:41:55 PM PDT by green iguana
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To: Saundra Duffy
Judge Napolitano is a fine man.
(imo should've been on the ussc)

thanks for posting that link
766 posted on 05/22/2008 6:42:02 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: Saundra Duffy

I can imagine it now.

CPS: Now, Johnny, just tell us how many times you saw your uncle go in the room with 14 year old Susie, and we’ll let you go home to your mom...


767 posted on 05/22/2008 6:42:28 PM PDT by djf
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To: Arkinsaw

Government is a fearful master.


768 posted on 05/22/2008 6:43:24 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: TCats; Utah Girl

Ben Stein on the matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19XjUDLED_g&feature=related


769 posted on 05/22/2008 6:43:37 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Old Mountain man; djf

Ben Stein’s take on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19XjUDLED_g&feature=related

Now I REALLY want to see his movie.


770 posted on 05/22/2008 6:44:50 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: TCats
As you'll recall, I went from being labeled a Troll on through to being an advocate of pedophilia. This despite actually taking time to try to disabuse them of their myopic, ignorant suspicions.

AH...but in addition to those, I got the "holocaust denier" ribbon pinned on me!


Some sad little people.

771 posted on 05/22/2008 6:45:12 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: commonguymd

We must look to ourselves or we are doomed as a free people.


772 posted on 05/22/2008 6:45:20 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: commonguymd

You got boogiemen hiding in the closet? You convict with no facts and then create sensational ideas in your head.


Yep..... catch me once with your illegal search but not the 2nd time. I’d be outta the state as quickly as my children were in my possession. Maybe they will be dumb enough to hang around and let the CPS and others get another shot at them....

In any case the Texas Court system is working through the appellate process. Let’s see how it all comex out; as is, appealed to the Texas Supreme Court or some other solution.


773 posted on 05/22/2008 6:45:25 PM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: Gondring

oops..that (#614)

Not to worry this thread it growing so fast its easy to loose ones place.


774 posted on 05/22/2008 6:45:45 PM PDT by mouser (run the rats out its the only hope we have)
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To: commonguymd

“Sad part is that many of them seem to actually want the allegations and falsehoods to be true for some sick, twisted, demented reason.”


That is just an inflammatory remark, and not true.

It is no more true than saying you are blaming everything on the government, because you want the FLDS to continue raping children.


The truth is, you are concerned that the CPS overstepped it’s authority, and made reckless accusations, and violated constitutional law.

Others believe that Texas had reason to step in and investigate, and that removing all the children was the only choice considering the circumstances.

Once this ‘custody’ stuff is settled, and I don’t really care ‘how’ as long as it is legal, then we can get to the meat of the matter.

If the evidence is there, then get on with the arrests.
If not, then Texas and CPS are going to find the one thing they wanted to stop, will be ‘out of their reach’ from now on.

Each child is getting a custody hearing, and even with this appellate court ruling, coming to a conclusion as to what ‘will’ happen is really just gambling.


775 posted on 05/22/2008 6:46:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I used to really like Ben Stein, but since all of the lies and misleading of his movie, I’m torn. :-(


776 posted on 05/22/2008 6:46:16 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

“Okay, so maybe I went a bit overboard...I know that would never happen in America...but do you get my point?”

Oh, well said.


777 posted on 05/22/2008 6:46:40 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: Saundra Duffy

GOOD GOD! I can’t believe the Government loving folks here one iota.


778 posted on 05/22/2008 6:48:25 PM PDT by commonguymd (Let the socialists duke it out. All three of them.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Awesome Post from FOX news !!

Thanks !!


779 posted on 05/22/2008 6:48:41 PM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: El Gato; GovernmentShrinker

Source? http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700226749,00.html?pg=1

And the article clearly states

” Texas Child Protective Services workers were expected to file family service plans in court late Friday, outlining what parents must do to be reunited with their children.

“The judges will be looking at the plans of service. There will be discussion regarding what the agency and parents are trying to do together in an attempt to have the children safely returned to the parents’ care at some point,” said Marleigh Meisner, a spokeswoman for the government agency.”


780 posted on 05/22/2008 6:48:45 PM PDT by driftdiver
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