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Court: Texas had no right to take polygamists' kids 3 minutes ago
AP via Yahoo ^ | 5/22/08

Posted on 05/22/2008 10:46:31 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan

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To: Ron Jeremy

I didn’t say it was done right, but I am also tired of this damning of people, like the Texas Rangers and DFPS who where given evidence, and had to make a choice to act, and chose a path they thought was best for the children. If they had a time machine, sure, I bet things would be done a lot differently, but they didn’t.


121 posted on 05/22/2008 11:34:17 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: ElkGroveDan

Not at all surprised. Ones wonders what the pitchforks will be used for next.


122 posted on 05/22/2008 11:34:53 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: ElkGroveDan

Whoever has been watching this without religious zealousy and love for all things government saw this coming...


123 posted on 05/22/2008 11:35:30 AM PDT by commonguymd (Let the socialists duke it out. All three of them.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I believe the woman in Colorado who made the false police report has been charged.....


124 posted on 05/22/2008 11:35:30 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
But it has to be noted that nearly two months post raid, not a soul has been charged with a single crime.

Amazing, isn't it? All that rapin' and coming and going, flying back and forth in private airplanes and driving 800+ miles one way to get to those underage girls and their is not a single related arrest?

< /sar >

I have read some pretty amazing things right here from folks trying to make the tail wag the dog...

125 posted on 05/22/2008 11:36:06 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: mnehrling

“A court read the Texas Ranger’s affidavit and, based on that evidence, acted”

Yeah, some court, with a little Stalin presiding. The actions and judgment of that judge are where things went far into the wrong direction.

Recall how she told the mothers, upon separation from their children, to get over it because women had to leave their children in the care of others all the time in the modern world?


126 posted on 05/22/2008 11:36:35 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Old Mountain man

They were out in force by the time of your post! Defenders of the State, (may someone accuse THEM of abuse)!


127 posted on 05/22/2008 11:36:45 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: mnehrling

When I was a rookie cop about thirty-five years ago, I had an old Lieutenant tell me: If you don’t know what you’re doin’, don’t do nothin’.

Good advice then and very good advice today for Texas authorities.


128 posted on 05/22/2008 11:36:50 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: paul51
OK. They didn't have the right. Who pays a penalty? Another gov’t agency operated by bureaucratic thugs and totally out of control. It should be shut down and those who presided over it thrown in jail.

Until we start to make public officials personally accountable, I fear that we will continue to see abuses that are paid for by you and me...the taxpayers.

129 posted on 05/22/2008 11:37:04 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: conservativeinferno
Substantive Due Process- 1
US Govt- 0

Not U.S. government, but Texas state government in this case.

130 posted on 05/22/2008 11:37:18 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Politics is the ultimate exercise in facing reality and making hard choices.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

As a publik scewl teecher, I can tell you that there are two reasons that girls get pregnant. First: They are unloved and think that having a baby will give them someone who will love them. Second: They get a gubmint check. The second is usually the most common.

The cult girls had no choice. The girls who did “choose” did so due to brainwashing from an early age.


131 posted on 05/22/2008 11:38:59 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Ron Jeremy

; ~ )


132 posted on 05/22/2008 11:39:08 AM PDT by antceecee (where do we go from here Ollie?.)
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To: Ron Jeremy

My husband had an autographed photo of your screen name in his office years ago. I told him he should take it down b/c it might offend someone. He answered, “Anyone who knows who he is doesn’t have the right to be offended.” I laugh every time I think of that.


133 posted on 05/22/2008 11:40:03 AM PDT by Melpomene
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To: ElkGroveDan

CPS meanies should pay dearly for this high-handed and cruel treatment of children and their families.


134 posted on 05/22/2008 11:40:13 AM PDT by Marylander (Tolja so.)
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To: Lurker

Sadly, a number of people bought that line. I wonder who is going to cash the checks their mouths have been writing now.


135 posted on 05/22/2008 11:40:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you continue to hold your nose and vote, your nation will stink worse after every election.)
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To: varina davis
Due process does seem to be a reasonable method.

Agreed. I just remain thankful that it didn't turn into another Waco.

136 posted on 05/22/2008 11:41:01 AM PDT by jpl ("Don't tell me words don't matter." - Barack Obama, via Deval Patrick)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"It continually amazes me here that the very same people who deride the main stream media for the inaccuracies and bias of their reporting immediately swallow their stories hook, line, and sinker when they hear of a story like this."

Many times over the years, I have pointed out this occurrence here. Seems that nobody believes the media when the media is saying something that they disagree with, but when the media's report suits their agenda ... different ballgame.

Truth be told, the media has an agenda overall, but you really have to apply common sense and judge the sources when you are evaluating the validity of a news report.

137 posted on 05/22/2008 11:41:12 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: beltfed308

Neither will some freepers.


138 posted on 05/22/2008 11:41:34 AM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: Orange1998

Not only did they burn the place down, then they bull dozed it to hide the evidence proving they lied their asses off. Then they got commendations, promotions and raises.


139 posted on 05/22/2008 11:42:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you continue to hold your nose and vote, your nation will stink worse after every election.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
The FLDS is certified freak show. Yesterday's WSJ had a good opinion piece, characterizing it as a cult where middle-aged men can satisfy their sexual fantasies under the guise of religion. I tend to agree with that analysis. My take is that it is morally repugnant.

But...due process is crucial especially when we find things morally repugnant. I'm old enough to remember when everyone was certain, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that all those children were viciously assaulted in the day care centers.

Except they weren't. But the mob had already made it's choice. And thousands of lives were destroyed.

When I hear about CPS, or any of the caring and nurturing bureaucracies, I remember the caution, “when you're a hammer everything else looks like a nail.”

140 posted on 05/22/2008 11:42:23 AM PDT by starlifter
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