Posted on 05/22/2008 8:55:57 AM PDT by Turbopilot
Will the Libertarians Spoil McCain’s Chances?,
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DUH
McCain has already spoiled McCain’s chances...
You can say whatever you like, of course, but most Republicans aren't going to vote for a Democrat, even if there were no Republican candidate. Extreme seemed to be implying that if there were no Libertarian candidate, Libertarians would vote for Dems, not Repubs.
Completely agree. Unfortunately the Republican Party has abandoned Conservatives and Conservatism, in spite of the fact that they are always conjuring up the ghost of Ronald Reagan every chance they get just to fool us-- assume that McCain will do more of the same.
But, if the Libertarians do run Bob Barr, and real Conservatives wrap their brain around Bob Barr's Lifetime ACU Rating of 98%, McCain will be in real trouble.
To those who think that Libertarianism is closer to the Democrats than the Republicans, I would suggest that in reality, with McCain as the Republican presidential nominee, the Republicans are actually the ones closer to the Democrats, and it is the Libertarians who stand further to the Right.
I assume you also include the NYT, WaPo, L.A. Times, Boston Globe, and others in this category.
Can you please provide a list of newspapers, magazines, and news channels that you would recommend?
The only way for a group to "spoil" something, or to be to blame, is to assume that the group was somehow compelled or obligated to support it in the first place.
As far as I can tell, McCain is about as far from libertarianism as any of the candidates.
The only one that can spoil McCain's chances is McCain himself. He is the one who chooses his platform, agenda, and priorities. Either the voters like it, or they don't.
Ya think? ;-)
I haven’t watched TV in 20 years, but I don’t have to. I heard about Perot from the news spots on my music station while commuting, or in other indirect ways.
The media twist was that he was a smart businessman. What they didn’t say was that most of his business was government contracts.
I’m not criticizing anyone for voting for him. I just don’t think it will happen again, at least until people forget what happened in that election.
I see you’ve chosen to read all the ones that bash MCCain...that way you won’t have to think for yourself.
I requested you make a recommendation and you respond with an insult and allege that I was bashing McCain? Ain't that special!
I thought I was pretty polite:I assume you also include the NYT, WaPo, L.A. Times, Boston Globe, and others in this category.
(Subtract points.)
Can you please provide a list of newspapers, magazines, and news channels that you would recommend?
I believe it is James Watt, not Nader, who is the odds-on favorite to win the Green party nomination.
Equally likely. Barr is no libertarian and never will be.
Screw Bobby ACLU Barr!
Wayne Allyn Root all the way!!!!!
“McCain offers libertarians nothing, so their votes wouldn’t have gone to him any more than they would have gone to Obama.
Libertarian votes are not Republican by default. And now that the Republicans are a party of big government, I don’t see the libertarians rejoining the base.”
I’m actually in the camp now. I first became a big Republican fan in 1994 ala the Republican revolution. When I learned from a government textbook in high school that Republicans were for a smaller, less intrusive government, lower taxes, more personal responsibility, and equality of opportunity over equality of outcome; I said...that’s definately me to a tee.
I loved Newt and the Contract with America as well as the budget showdowns that followed.
My personal little pet favorite thing that the first Republican class did was end the federal speed limit of 55mph. It was a small thing, but I loved them for that.
I loved welfare reform and the attempts to pass a balanced budget amendmant. I loved it all.
In college, I learned to play poker online (see the article) and it was one of my favorite hobbies. I made some modest money doing it, but, mostly, I enjoyed the strategy.
My love affair with the Republican party faded slowly after about 2003. I cut W a little slack with the Patriot Act, etc...and I have always been a staunchly pro-life libertarian and I believe that abortions are unconsitutional as well. When online poker was banned, I couldn’t stand the idea that the smaller, less intrusive government was gone. The nanny state had arrived and I began to examine all of the terrible policy that had occurred over the previous six years: the spending, NCLB...the list seemed to go on and on and on.
So, for a while, I fit in well with the Republicans. I wanted to run for Congress one day. I once went to a model Congress and I was given the role of Lindsay Graham. I was proud then to have that role but I am hate to hear his name come up anymore.
Alas, I am leaving for the Libertarians now. I am really not sure how I fit in anymore here at the Free Republic but I know there are more people like me. I know I can never be elected to Congress now because I wouldn’t be able to get any backing from a major party. I’ve accepted reality on that.
Sometimes reality bites, though.
We’ll know in a week. I don’t see Barr as a libertarian either, though he seems to like poking a stick in the eye of the current administration. And, of course, he was an ACLU attorney. He is *running* for the Lib nomination, which gives him at least a theoretical chance of winning I suppose. He is the best known among the candidates, which doesn’t hurt. We’ll see next week.
What I don’t think will happen is Ron Paul being the nominee, because his current strategy seems to be working for him (assuming his goal is publicity).
OH NOES!!! ;)
Made in Colombia?
only if bitter conservatives drink the koolade and surrender their reason
Reason dictates Mccain if not.... .Obama.
A libertarian vote is a Democrat vote
Sorry, Bert, but it feels more like "A McCain vote is a Democrat vote", especially when Barr has a much higher ACU rating than McCain does.
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