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Court blasts state's strip-search of children
World Net Daily ^ | May 20, 2008 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 05/21/2008 2:53:57 PM PDT by Dengar01

Two children who attended a private Christian school in Wisconsin were illegally strip-searched and had their constitutional rights violated by a state social worker, the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously ruled Monday.

In Michael C. v. Gresbach, the court said state worker Dana Gresbach violated the children's Fourth Amendment rights to freedom from unreasonable search when she entered Good Hope Christian Academy in Milwaukee, Wis., had the children pulled from the classrooms and told them to remove their clothing when she suspected the parents of spanking in February 2004.

Stephen Crampton, vice president of legal affairs and general counsel for Liberty Counsel, represented the parents of 8-year-old Ian and 9-year-old Alexis when they sued the Bureau of Milwaukee Child Welfare and the caseworker.

"We are obviously pleased with the result, but candidly, we wish they had been more harsh on this renegade department that has ruined the lives of so many well-intentioned families already," he told WND.

Crampton said this type of overstep is common among social workers, and they often do not give it a second thought.

"The social worker performed these strip searches as a matter of routine, estimating that in perhaps one-half of the 300 or so cases she handled every year she subjected kids to a partial disrobing," he said. "In fact, she testified that she considered it so routine that she did not bother to discuss her intentions with her supervisor, even though she spoke to her on her way to the school."

The state had several social workers file affidavits saying they would have followed the same procedure. Crampton said, "That is an alarming admission, and we suspect you would find a similar pattern in social service offices all over America."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brownshirts; fourthammendment; homosexualagenda; socialworkers
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To: NonValueAdded

Re: Illegal spanking. “Is that a Wisconsin thing?”

H#ll, No, LOL! You can buy your underage kid a drink in a bar in this state, so, I’m sure you can legally beat the snot out of him when he beats you at pool or darts later in the evening, LOL! ;)

(My Dad owes me a lot of retroactive adult beverages, I’m thinkin’!)


21 posted on 05/21/2008 3:14:35 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Dengar01
she’d leave missing her head.

Now that would be a neat trick.

22 posted on 05/21/2008 3:15:23 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (The secret of Life is letting go. The secret of Love is letting it show.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

In Indiana it’s legal in public schools as well.


23 posted on 05/21/2008 3:17:28 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Grunthor

What would you do when the ex ended up in jail?


24 posted on 05/21/2008 3:20:15 PM PDT by donna (Before they gave us McCain, they tried to give us Rudy.)
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To: muawiyah
A legal warrant would be the answer based on the evidence.

A vindictive phone call is all it takes to get the HRS to take a kid away from a middle-class family.

However, if its a crack house, the social worker will usually shove the file under the carpet, because they don't want to deal with that.

25 posted on 05/21/2008 3:21:15 PM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Not such a big deal. The head doesn’t contain any organ which is particularly necessary for a government case worker.


26 posted on 05/21/2008 3:24:21 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: TruthConquers
And does that harm justify the few who are helped?

I guarantee that the families harmed far outnumbers those they help..

27 posted on 05/21/2008 3:25:15 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: NonValueAdded

CPS in all its iterations in all the states considers it child abuse along with harsh speech. These things are normally enforced only against white families, preferably with light haired kids. These kids are worth much more on the market after they are finally confiscated and put in “foster care,” ultimately to be sold into the adoption market.


28 posted on 05/21/2008 3:27:56 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: cardinal4

I have no doubt that is correct.


29 posted on 05/21/2008 3:29:42 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Dengar01

So why aren’t these agents of the state in jail? They committed jail and arguably sex crimes and child abuse.Mama can’t smack the kid’s bottom but state agents can do this?


30 posted on 05/21/2008 3:36:08 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Dengar01
Methinks the social worker is a not-so-closet child molester/voyeur. She just likes looking at naked kids that's all.
31 posted on 05/21/2008 3:38:51 PM PDT by madison10 (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: muawiyah

The existience o CPS departments is not justified in any sort of free country. The fact that murders occur on the street in Philadelphia does not justify 100% of the population being under 100% surveillance 100% of the time. Except to totalitarians of various sorts, Communists, Nazis, and Traditional Moslems.


32 posted on 05/21/2008 3:39:29 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: muawiyah
I'm glad you feel more secure.

America is less free.

33 posted on 05/21/2008 3:41:30 PM PDT by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: TruthConquers
To CPS and other socialists the harm to any number of innocent families is justified by bringing one spanker to justicepunishment. It is better that a thousand innocents go to jail than that one guilty party go free.
34 posted on 05/21/2008 3:43:50 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus

Easier to make life miserable for the white middle class. I think they have less fear of retaliation.

Bloated egos with file folders. They don’t care about the damage they do. They have little badges & county issued cell phones. They’re “somebody”.


35 posted on 05/21/2008 3:47:57 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I've done here today doesn't force you to have a negative opinion of me....)
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To: muawiyah
Are they more harmful perhaps than a kidnapper? How about a rapist?

I thought cops handled allegations of criminal activity and not CPS.....

When did CPS get the authority to arrest kidnappers and rapists?

L

36 posted on 05/21/2008 3:49:09 PM PDT by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: Lurker
Ah, ha! You missed the point. The discussion was about "abuse", and we don't know if it's criminal or something else, but yes, COPS do accompany CPS, and vice versa, when you've got a crime where children are/were present. Even the coronor might come along.

Sometimes the cops come along to guard CPS folks.

But, in your mind, which is more dangerous to a child ~ a rapist, or a CPS investigator?

37 posted on 05/21/2008 3:55:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
You missed the point.

No I didn't. You implied that CPS 'investigators' dealt with rapists and kidnappers. They do no such thing.

and we don't know if it's criminal or something else,

Physically abusing a child is a crime in all 50 States. It's a police matter.

COPS do accompany CPS, and vice versa, when you've got a crime where children are/were present.

See above. CPS is superflous. They're unnecessary. Abusing, raping, or kidnapping a child is a crime and should be investigated by the Police, not half trained nimrods from CPS.

Sometimes the cops come along to guard CPS folks.

If the situation is known or suspected to be dangerous, why take an unarmed civilian?

which is more dangerous to a child ~ a rapist, or a CPS investigator?

I'd say it's a draw....

L

38 posted on 05/21/2008 4:00:45 PM PDT by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: arthurus

The harm they cause is UNREPAIRABLE!!! Period.

Bunch of government do-gooders that think they are god.


39 posted on 05/21/2008 4:03:08 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: muawiyah; Lurker

And who gets to define what is abuse? Some activist judge with an agenda?


40 posted on 05/21/2008 4:05:53 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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