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Operation in Sadr City Is an Iraqi Success, So Far (Breaking, NY Times calls Iraq a success)
NY Times ^ | 5/21/2008 | MICHAEL R. GORDON and ALISSA J. RUBIN

Posted on 05/21/2008 10:57:27 AM PDT by tobyhill

BAGHDAD — Iraqi forces rolled unopposed through the huge Shiite enclave of Sadr City on Tuesday, a dramatic turnaround from the bitter fighting that has plagued the Baghdad neighborhood for two months, and a qualified success for Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki.

As it did in the southern city of Basra last month, the Iraqi government advanced its goal of establishing sovereignty and curtailing the powers of the militias.

This was a hopeful accomplishment, but one that came with caveats: In both cities, the militias eventually melted away in the face of Iraqi troops backed by American firepower. Thus nobody can say just where the militias might re-emerge or when Iraqi and American forces might need to fight them again.

By late Tuesday, Iraqi troops had pushed deep into the district and set up positions around hospitals and police stations, which the Iraqi government was seeking to bring under its control.

The main military question now is whether Iraqi soldiers can solidify their hold over Sadr City in the coming days. And the main political one is whether the Maliki government will cement its gains by carrying out its long-promised, multimillion-dollar program of economic assistance and job creation to win over a still wary population and erode the militias’ base of support.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; mahdiarmy; sadr; sadrcity

1 posted on 05/21/2008 10:57:29 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

But Senator Reid said the war was lost a year ago this summer.


2 posted on 05/21/2008 11:00:48 AM PDT by HD1200
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To: tobyhill

I suspect the NYT will begin claiming a success more often, so that once Obama or McCain becomes President, they can start the drumbeat for an immediate withdrawal based on that “success”.


3 posted on 05/21/2008 11:02:07 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: HD1200
But Senator Reid said the war was lost a year ago this summer.

and he also said that Bush is a loser

4 posted on 05/21/2008 11:02:44 AM PDT by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
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To: jveritas; FARS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; knighthawk; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; Steel Wolf; CAP; ...

NYT grudingly admits defeat for terrorists in Iraq ping.


5 posted on 05/21/2008 11:04:04 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (If you liked Carter and you like Kennedy, you'll love Obama.)
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To: theDentist

Yep. They figure they took down President Bush all they can before this election so they will try for the truth to pump their numbers up again.


6 posted on 05/21/2008 11:08:30 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill
Of course the NY Times now sees it as a success.

They no longer need to blame Bush for the war, and they don't want the need to win the war to be a reason for people to vote for McCain.

If the war is won, and the Iraqi's can take over, then the need for a strong commander in chief is not nearly as strong for a lot of swing voters.

McCain's military background is his main strength.

Heck if a lot of conservatives believe that the war isn't a major issue, they are going to be a lot more comfortable staying home rather than holding their nose and voting for McCain.

7 posted on 05/21/2008 11:27:52 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: tobyhill
I'm curious if we are beginning to see a change in the MSM's fall strategy. If they slowly and surely taut success in Iraq over the summer, I wonder if by fall they will be proclaiming that "Iraq is over". This way most of the foreign policy is taken off the table for debate and they will begin the chant, "It's about the economy". This would surely help Obama in the general.
8 posted on 05/21/2008 11:29:38 AM PDT by aegiscg47
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To: untrained skeptic
Your thoughts beat me by a few seconds! Great minds think alike!
9 posted on 05/21/2008 11:30:45 AM PDT by aegiscg47
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To: tobyhill; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well, well, well...the progress is becoming too powerful to conceal now.

When the NYT has to report good news out of Iraq, it means it's going great. :-D

10 posted on 05/21/2008 1:09:30 PM PDT by Allegra (TEHRAN DELENDA EST)
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To: Allegra; LS; Dog

U.S. fatalities in Iraq are now down to their lowest levels of the entire war, a strikingly undeniable sign that things in Iraq are “better” as well as that the Iraqis themselves are shouldering more of their own security burden than at any earlier time.


11 posted on 05/21/2008 1:13:36 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: tobyhill

In related news: Hussain Obama got thumped in KY!

Pray for W and Our Troops


12 posted on 05/21/2008 1:31:09 PM PDT by bray (If everyone hates you, you must be doin something right?)
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To: HD1200
"hairy reid" is a DIMocRAT and a truly DISHONEST creep, to boot.

PITY that the DIMs don't have the brains to "flush him".

free dixie,sw

13 posted on 05/21/2008 2:40:00 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: elhombrelibre
Well today on PBS interview with Pelosi. She still is working hard to get a bill passed eventually that will bring all our military folk home from Iraq.
She even went so far when asked if she has changed her views since her last visit that she did not. She second guesses all the gains that where presented to her both on the Iraqi military achievements and the Iraqi government benchmarks.
14 posted on 05/21/2008 4:21:39 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Nancy’s going to be like that last Japanese soldieer after WWII on an isolated island not giving up because she didn’t get the word, except she got the word and wasn’t emotionally and politically willing to accept defeat for anyone but Bush.


15 posted on 05/21/2008 9:20:35 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (If you liked Carter and you like Kennedy, you'll love Obama.)
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To: elhombrelibre

That’s a good way of putting it. Perhaps she carries a knife for the final act. She certainly is a real bozo by any measure.


16 posted on 05/22/2008 5:03:20 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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