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1 posted on 05/20/2008 11:24:58 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Are they introducing the HHO into the carb separately from the fuel?


2 posted on 05/20/2008 11:27:25 AM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: Red Badger
Here's a youtube video of this in use.
3 posted on 05/20/2008 11:29:08 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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Smoke and mirrors until they separate H2O with less energy than they can get from combining it.


6 posted on 05/20/2008 11:32:47 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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I just put five foot tall wheels on the back of my truck so that I’m always going downhill and each time the engine turns over I go a lot further.
If anyone can believe this he should have nooo problem with the water “electrolyzer” or was it “electrolux”?


13 posted on 05/20/2008 12:07:01 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Actually, I think this would work as intended. Think of it this way. Your AC uses electrical and mechanical energy, and is wasted on keeping you cool, rather than to propel you farther down the road. If you turned off you AC, and shifted that amount of energy into making hydrogen and oxygen, you get some return by producing gases which together can burn at a very high temperature. Add the combustible mixture to your combustion chambers, and you get some added effect. Less gas pedal might be needed to achieve a given speed. But with that said, I’m thinking that the max benefit would be something like .01 % increase in gas mileage. It would be a very tiny amount of gas, added to the very large amount of fuel mixture that is used to run a car engine.


14 posted on 05/20/2008 12:08:23 PM PDT by ZX12R
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18 posted on 05/20/2008 12:17:40 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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The load on the altenator will exceed the energy provided by combustion of the hydrogen.


21 posted on 05/20/2008 12:22:09 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Nadim Hussain,,,,,,I wonder about that name.
23 posted on 05/20/2008 12:25:59 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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Hussain says users can expect “increased engine power, smoother gear changing and a cleaner, quieter, longer-lasting engine”.

Smoother gear changing makes me suspect the entire concept.

24 posted on 05/20/2008 12:28:03 PM PDT by chainsaw ( No racist Muslims in the WH)
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I’ve followed discussions about this on automotive forums, diesel forums to be precise. No clear gains have been attainable on a regular basis. One problem that popped up a few times was the water freezing. It takes energy to separate the HHO and the proportions just don’t work. The turbo on my diesel engine will flow over 1000 CFM of charge air. How much hydrogen can you make using electrolysis and an on board power source compared to 1000 CFM per minute?

On a diesel engine, you can just inject the water straight in the intake and burn it. It will provide moderate HP gains at virtually no cost. You can also inject propane, water/methanol mixed, Nitrous. About any combustible that won’t cause pre-ignition during compression. But, there is little savings as these energy sources also cost $$.


29 posted on 05/20/2008 12:35:36 PM PDT by IamConservative (Character: What you do when no one is looking.)
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Going through the posts, it looks like a little background info is needed.

The alternator does not make electricity for free, any electricity produced is accompanied by a drag on the engine greater than the electric power generated.

Hydrogen is not made for free, any hydrogen you make with combustion will produce less power than the energy you used to make it.

Internal combusion engines are very inefficient. 90% of the fuel energy measured as gross heat will be lost as heat and not move the car. A gasoline engine tops at at about 30% effienciency compared to an ideal heat engine (carnot effiency).

You can lose energy making electricity and lose even more energy converting that electricity into hydrogen and still come out ahead if you can increase the effiency of the engine by a couple of percent.

No perpetual motion or magic needed.


30 posted on 05/20/2008 12:37:42 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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Here’s a thought. How about harnessing the waste heat of a normal internal combustion engine to produce high pressure steam and drive a turbine? Then that energy could be used to make hydrogen or charge a battery.

200 degree coolant coming out of the block could be sent to an exhaust manifold jacket via pump to be superheated and released through the turbine. It would then be passed through a condensing radiator and then pumped on to the normal radiator.


35 posted on 05/20/2008 12:47:52 PM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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Hussain says users can expect “increased engine power, smoother gear changing and a cleaner, quieter, longer-lasting engine”.

You don't think someone named "Hussain" would lie do you?

48 posted on 05/20/2008 1:44:57 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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This scammer has been all over craiglist trying to get mechanics to train on his voodoo product.


54 posted on 05/20/2008 2:52:24 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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I would invest right now, but all my capital is tied up in San Bromista, Mexico.

http://www.porcinefund.com/catranch/catranchx.htm

55 posted on 05/20/2008 3:02:54 PM PDT by Chaguito
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Interesting, but I think I’ll let you go first. ;-)


62 posted on 05/20/2008 7:43:58 PM PDT by Impostor
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