Bullet microstamping efforts appear stalled

Albany Times-Union ^ | May 20, 2008 | Rick Karlin

[DuncanWaring]

That number is etched into the breech and firing pin in a way that would stamp each bullet, allowing police to better match a shell casing with an individual weapon.

More journalistic incompetence.

[ozark hilljilly]

If I could get a microstamp of a smiley face on the casings, I’m all for it!
Otherwise, forget it.
Criminals will always get guns, regardless, while law biders have to jump through hoops and be under constant suspicion.

[mbynack]

Congress should pass a law requiring criminals to leave a business card and blood sample at each crime scene. The government could then create a multi-billion dollar bureaucracy to maintain the database. It would be just as effective as this proposed system.

[thulldud]

On Monday, though, Golden's office confirmed the Senate is now looking at creating a study on microstamping, which could delay or even eliminate any chance of its implementation.

Because the distinguished Senators of NY were legislating for the TV/movie world, which is where most of them got their understanding of firearms. Such legislation has no application out here in reality.

[calex59]

Congress should pass a law requiring criminals to leave a business card and blood sample at each crime scene. The government could then create a multi-billion dollar bureaucracy to maintain the database. It would be just as effective as this proposed system.

Or, and here is one they have probably thought of but don't have the guts to implement, YET, they could implant a micro chip GPS in each of us so that the location of each individual was known at all times. Then when someone was killed we would know exactly who the killer was!NOT.

Any technology can be worked around if you are dedicated to breaking the law. The only one this micro stamping(or GPS micro chips)would actually pin point would be law abiding citizens.

Of course this is what they are after. Control the bulk of citizens and to heck with the criminals. This was the attitude in the old Soviet Union who tended to actually ignore everyday crimes because they had the bulk of the citizens under control.

[Smokin' Joe]

In an unusual breach of unwritten legislative protocol opponents, including one of Schimel's colleagues and representatives of gun groups, showed up unexpectedly. The opponents were thrown out before the actual demonstration, but later returned.

What? Have someone else actually want to see what is being said/showed to people? Try to keep things fair? How dare they do such a thing???

[polymuser]

If I could get a microstamp of a smiley face on the casings, I’m all for it!

I'd like "Make my day".

[QBFimi2]

Whenever ... the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. St. George Tucker

[lowbridge]

bump

[Myrddin]

Why does government believe that it is OK to tax, track and register gun owners? They aren't allowed to do that with books. It's a gross infringement on the exercise of a right protected by the 2nd amendment. Perhaps the outcome of the Heller case at the SCOTUS will have some impact.

[Cobra64]

In microstamping, each handgun gets a unique ID number. That number is etched into the breech and firing pin in a way that would stamp each bullet, allowing police to better match a shell casing with an individual weapon.

These people are morons. They need a cartridge primer (no pun intended).

Firing Pin:

Cartridge:

1- Bullet
2- Case
3- Powder
4- Rim
5- Primer
Firing pin hits primer, ignites powder, propels bullet.
Casing stays in revolver cylinder

Bullets:

Microstamping removel system:

Can I have your empty brass? Just need it to spread around a crime scene.

[rickomatic]

In an unusual breach of unwritten legislative protocol opponents, including one of Schimel's colleagues and representatives of gun groups, showed up unexpectedly. The opponents were thrown out before the actual demonstration, but later returned. What? Have someone else actually want to see what is being said/showed to people? Try to keep things fair? How dare they do such a thing???

If memory serves me correctly, there is not even such a system working currently. A Washington State company holds the patent on the idea of such a system, but it is not actually in existence as of yet. This company, with the conspiracy of willing dupes in government are pushing this system to hopefully get a corner on the market. If I am correct, this fools errand has been categorically rejected in several states already. So....the reason they didn't want anyone opposed to this bill at the "demonstration", was probably because they were merely demonstrating a dream. The Emporer does not wish the subjects to view him without his clothes on.

[tcostell]

I don't think that will help. They still think the "Assault weapons ban" lowers crime and makes machine guns illegal.

They don't need a science class, they need reading comprehension.

[Myrddin]

It's pretty clear the microstamping cheerleaders want to dazzle the ignorant legislators without having any competent observers present to point out the major flaws in the concept. This is exactly the reason why "sunshine" laws have been enacted in many states. It requires the meetings to be open to public observation so this kind of shenanigans doesn't result in adverse legislation.

[Seamus McD]

And criminals wouldn’t EVER think about filing off the microstamp, which, by the way, will not prevent the pin from striking the primer and firing the bullet.

Give me a break. More tax money to a solution that won’t solve anything, except for finding another way to get more money in the gov’t coffers, and line their pockets with.

[AnAmericanMother]

That firing pin is cratering bad! And in two different calibers, too!

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

I’d say the lib dumbasses did it again. I assume that all ammunition will be redesigned so the primer becomes a permanent part of the casing.

Where does ALGORE and Jimmi stand on this technology.

[Cobra64]

That firing pin is cratering bad! And in two different calibers, too!

I know. It's not mine. Since I don't take pictures of my empties, I picked that off the internet.

Now HERE are some primer strikes! Bad lot...

BTW, I shoot Fiocchi a lot in new guns since it runs consistently hot, and I've never had any problems with any of the 4,000 rounds over the last year.

[messierhunter]

Absolutely brilliant post, THANK YOU! It’s so easy to pick up loose brass, just go to any gun range and look down. I for one am not in favor of having to count every single round I fire, search through all the loose brass, and recover every single casing just to keep some scumbag from placing my “serial number” at the scene of the crime. I might just violate some laws and file off the stamper, which I’m sure the criminals will do too. From all this talk of “bullet stamping” I initially thought the technology was going to somehow stamp the bullet before it’s fired. At least the bullet would be practically impossible for a criminal to recover and place into their victim, but that’s not what they’re talking about. Bullets and casings are two very different things - the media and politicians are basically lying by using the word “bullet” incorrectly.