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To: Principled
Nobody ever said the FairTax taxes criminal sales.

Yes you did when you said "[illegals, criminals] will begin paying their full share of federal tax via purchases under the nrst." Without expanding the base to include illegal activities, the fairtax base just includes the exact same legal market activities as the income tax, and then there is no basis for your argument that prices will somehow magically come down under the fairtax. Under the fairtax, criminals will NOT be paying their full share, as they will still not be remitting any taxes for their illegal activities.

27 posted on 05/20/2008 8:49:07 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Always Right
Oy...

you don't get it. I'll try one more time.

today, a criminal/illegal only pays embedded taxes in consumption - while the legal pays embedded taxes AND PIT AND EE payroll. Do you see that currently criminals/illegals do not pay their full burden? [they pay no PIT or payroll]. Hence, legals pay a larger share per person... currently criminals and illegals are escaping a portion of their taxes [PIT and payroll].

under the nrst, the criminal does not escape taxes [except on illegal purchases, which obviously aren't taxed - nor are they taxed today] - he pays his effective rate, the same as the legal. That means under the nrst, legals will pay less and criminals/illegals will pay more.

do you see that the nrst will collect a greater portion of taxes from the criminal/illegal under the nrst than it does currently?

please note that is is NOT related in any respect to illegal sales. Illegal sales aren't taxed today and won't be under the nrst - they represent zero change. No change is asserted in illegal sales.

The change is that criminals/illegals currently escape paying taxes on illegal sales AND escape PIT and payroll. Under the nrst, they will still escape tax on illegal sales, but they will pay amounts for PIT and payroll in their consumption.

If you don't like the nrst, fine. But it will collect a greater portion of taxes from illegals/criminals than today compared to legals. That is one thing that allows tax burdens for legals to decline.

29 posted on 05/20/2008 9:04:45 AM PDT by Principled (Vaporize the "Divide and Conquer" taxes - Have everyone pay the same marginal rate!. NRST!)
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To: Always Right
Damn!!! you're thick headed.

Try reading #26 again -- that is if you read it in the first place -- and, of course tht depends on whether or not you Can READ.

73 posted on 05/21/2008 6:35:40 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (Appeasement is feeding the dragon hoping he will eat you LAST -- Winston Churchill)
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