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To: Always Right
Oy...

you don't get it. I'll try one more time.

today, a criminal/illegal only pays embedded taxes in consumption - while the legal pays embedded taxes AND PIT AND EE payroll. Do you see that currently criminals/illegals do not pay their full burden? [they pay no PIT or payroll]. Hence, legals pay a larger share per person... currently criminals and illegals are escaping a portion of their taxes [PIT and payroll].

under the nrst, the criminal does not escape taxes [except on illegal purchases, which obviously aren't taxed - nor are they taxed today] - he pays his effective rate, the same as the legal. That means under the nrst, legals will pay less and criminals/illegals will pay more.

do you see that the nrst will collect a greater portion of taxes from the criminal/illegal under the nrst than it does currently?

please note that is is NOT related in any respect to illegal sales. Illegal sales aren't taxed today and won't be under the nrst - they represent zero change. No change is asserted in illegal sales.

The change is that criminals/illegals currently escape paying taxes on illegal sales AND escape PIT and payroll. Under the nrst, they will still escape tax on illegal sales, but they will pay amounts for PIT and payroll in their consumption.

If you don't like the nrst, fine. But it will collect a greater portion of taxes from illegals/criminals than today compared to legals. That is one thing that allows tax burdens for legals to decline.

29 posted on 05/20/2008 9:04:45 AM PDT by Principled (Vaporize the "Divide and Conquer" taxes - Have everyone pay the same marginal rate!. NRST!)
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To: Principled
today, a criminal/illegal only pays embedded taxes in consumption - while the legal pays embedded taxes AND PIT AND EE payroll. Do you see that currently criminals/illegals do not pay their full burden?

Absolutely they cheat the system. I just don't get how you see it as ANY different under the fair tax. There is ZERO difference. There is NO net gain. Let's say Spitzer pays a hooker $5000. Under the income tax, the hooker does not pay SS tax or Income tax. Under the fairtax, the hooker does not remit 23% of that gross payment for her services. Under BOTH systems the hooker keeps over $1000 that rightfully should be sent to the government. NO DIFFERENT, except the semantics which you twist it with.

32 posted on 05/20/2008 9:12:59 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Principled

You’re wsasting your time with that one. That has been explained to him/her/it dozens of time, with absolutely no effect, and it has become quite obvious that he/she/it either cannot read, cannot understand the English language, or both.


75 posted on 05/21/2008 6:42:11 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (You're wasting your timne with that one)
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