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Discrimination against British soldiers in uniform to become a criminal offence (U.K.)
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | May 19, 2008 | MATTHEW HICKLEY

Posted on 05/19/2008 9:48:01 AM PDT by Stoat

Discrimination against British soldiers in uniform to become a criminal offence

by MATTHEW HICKLEY - More by this author » Last updated at 16:35pm on 19th May 2008

New laws will make it a criminal offence to discriminate against Britain's soldiers, sailors and airmen wearing uniform in public, under Government proposals outlined yesterday.

Courts will also hand out tougher punishments to anyone who assaults or threatens a serviceman wearing the Queen's uniform - which will become an 'aggravating factor' during sentencing.

Other measures designed to boost recognition and respect for the UK armed forces include a drive to encourage thousands more school pupils to train as military cadets, and teaching youngsters about the role and work of the military as a compulsory part of the National Curriculum.

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Brit soldier

Honour: British troops could be rembembered on a special Bank Holiday in a bid to improve how they are viewed by the public

 

The Government confirmed that a new National Armed Forces and Veterans Day will be introduced from next year, in late June, although ministers are still weighing up whether it should be a new Bank Holiday, along with more homecoming parades for units returning from war.

And all servicemen and women will be encouraged to wear military uniform in public wherever possible, to boost the visibility of Britain's rapidly-shrinking forces.

The study into National Recognition of our Armed Forces was carried out by former Conservative MP Quentin Davies at Gordon Brown's request, amid growing concern over the lack of public understanding or support for the military after years of controversial wars abroad.

(4) Last year the head of the Army General Sir Richard Dannatt warned that a lack of public appreciation risked 'sapping' the willingness of troops to serve in dangerous warzones abroad.

 

Opposition MPs broadly welcomed yesterday's proposals but claimed they would 'ring hollow' for many personnel who suffer from the lack of funding for the military, often having to live in sub-standard housing.

The report cites examples of negative attitudes to troops in uniform, including a security assistant at Harrods in London barring an Army officer wearing service dress after a Remembrance Day ceremony.

Harrods insisted it would still exclude servicemen or women wearing 'fatigues' - the combat clothing which most wear for everyday work - a rule which the report condemns as 'quite unacceptable.'

Other examples include troops returning from fighting in Afghanistan being told to change into civilian clothes before passing through Birmingham Airport, and being kept away from public areas of Edinburgh Airport.

In Peterborough, RAF personnel were banned from wearing uniform in town after incidents of verbal abuse.

This 'contrasts sharply' with American and Canada 'where members of the public greet returning troops warmly and appreciatively.'

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Troops leave Basra

Senior figures in the Armed Forces fear the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have harmed the Armed Forces' reputation at home

 

The report calls for legislation making it an offence for public services or private companies to discriminate against anyone in military uniform - putting such treatment on a legal par with racial or sexual discrimination.

Armed Forces Minister Bob Ainsworth said such cases were rare, but were 'totally and utterly unacceptable', and details of the new laws were being discussed.

The package will also push for a major expansion in cadet organisations.

Currently around one in 50 schoolchildren are part of cadet groups - 130,000 in all - either in the Combined Cadet Force in schools or in the Sea Cadets, Army Cadet Force or Air Training Corps outside.

Only around 260 out of 6,400 secondary schools have CCF units - almost all in Grammar or private schools - and ministers want to 'do everything possible to encourage more Comprehensive Schools and City Academies to join up.'

The report claims the social benefits for young cadets of 'team effort, purposeful endeavour and meeting physical challenges' go far beyond military training, and cites figures showing that while one in 19 boys aged 15 to 17 were charged, cautioned or warned for a criminal offence in 2004, among cadets of the same age the figure was just one in 625.

The move is likely to be controversial, however, particularly as young cadets receive weapons training.

Last month the National Union of Teachers was criticised when members voted to ban the military from recruiting in schools.

Yesterday the NUT's acting general secretary Christine Blower claimed youngsters 'with limited job prospects are being targeted for careers in the military', and called for 'a protocol' to set limits to the MOD's involvement in schools.

Liberal Democrat defence spokesman Nick Harvey said: 'Many of these proposals are good common sense and should be welcomed.

'But we must never let pageantry obscure the hard facts about the way the current Government treats our Armed Forces.

'An Armed Forces Day is welcome, but it will ring hollow for those forces families who still have to put up with sub-standard housing.'



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KEYWORDS: britain; england; greatbritain; harrods; kipling; soldiers; tommy; tommyatkins; troops; troopsupport; uk; uktroops; uniforms; unitedkingdom
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To: jabbermog

Please keep us posted on what happens to your case. I hope there is something you can do to the jerk.


41 posted on 05/26/2008 7:09:41 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: Stoat

Thanks for calling me back to this thread to read about jabbermog’s experience.


42 posted on 05/26/2008 7:11:14 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: Bigg Red; jabbermog
Thanks for calling me back to this thread to read about jabbermog’s experience.

You're quite welcome  :-)

The sort of thing that jabbermog is experiencing right now could easily happen in the USA if we were to go just a little bit farther to the Left....imagine some disciple of "Reverend" Wright or Louis Farrakhan standing on a street corner in Mainstreet USA, handing out pamphlets about some Afrocentric BS and shouting anti-American slogans, shouting about he and "his people" are being oppressed and all. And let's just suppose that you or I were to be walking by and didn't care for what he was saying and told him so.  And let's just say that in the passion of the moment, I let slip something like "why don't you go to Africa if you don't like it here?" or "why don't you go to some third-world Commie fly-blown black hellhole and stay there?".  With that I just might find myself in exactly the same spot (or worse) that jabbermog is in right now.

Political correctness and racial 'sensitivity' could easily be incorporated into law far more so than it is at the moment here in the USA, to the point that free speech is pretty much a thing of the past.  All it would take would be for the Government to take a leftward shift under an Obama Presidency (bite my tongue) where he is swept into office in a hysterical tide of white guilt and anti-racist chest-beating.  Who would protect us from such a legal shift?  Certainly not the ACLU....they would most likely embrace it wholeheartedly. We already have severe limits on Free Speech in academia....don't expect to get a good grade in a course if you write a paper that embraces Conservative principles or finds fault with Leftist dogma.

43 posted on 05/26/2008 9:08:16 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: manc
I got asked to leave etc and I said no thid place is for everyone etc etc.
There was nothing they could do and it really pissed them off.

 

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44 posted on 05/26/2008 9:43:02 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

Wish I could argue with your scenario....


45 posted on 05/27/2008 7:57:41 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: All

I’ve just come home from the office on a half day holiday and found a letter marked ‘South Yorkshire Police’ .
I just opened it and it says they said that ‘after careful deliberation we will take no further action on this occasion . However, given the wide diversity of people and opinions in this region, please show more consideration for induviduals engaged in law - abiding activism.’

It is signed by a Chief Inspector xxxxxx, who has the charming title ‘S.Y.P Head of Community Cohesion Services.’

Anyways it didnt go any further, just as my brief said . Just like to say to all you Freepers Many Many Thanks for all your posts . If the population of this country was more like you then we would not have this problem with 7th Century goat - diddlers in the first place.
Off sea fishing for the afternoon . Take care everyone.

Jabbermog

PS Manc Ill keep you informed about Islamic piss taking


46 posted on 05/28/2008 4:55:59 AM PDT by jabbermog (24 Hour drinking - it's not enough)
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To: jabbermog; Bigg Red; manc; SoldierDad; Mercia

In case you missed it, please see jabbermog’s post at #46 here....it appears that the Diversity Fascists have taken jabbermog off of their Persecution List, at least for the time being.

Congratulations to you jabbermog, I’m delighted that things seem to have worked out well for you! Thank you also for your kind and gracious words :-)

Hope you caught a big one when you were out fishing!


47 posted on 06/06/2008 8:13:55 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat; jabbermog

Thanks for the flag, Stoat.

Glad it turned out okay, jabbermog. Keep up the fight, FRiend, on your side of the Pond. Men like you are needed very much now.


48 posted on 06/07/2008 12:47:16 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: jabbermog

nice one mate and all the best,
aye keep us up to speed and BTW the fishing here off Florida’s coast is brilliant, .


49 posted on 06/09/2008 4:40:06 AM PDT by manc (a normal natural marriage is between a man and a woman, MA has a perverted sham marriages)
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