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Obama in a sea of people - creative editing from the folks at AP.
NY Times, Salem News, KPIC ^ | 5/18/2008 | Larry Rohter

Posted on 05/18/2008 8:28:27 PM PDT by xDGx

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To: Spok
Between photo shop technology and unabashed media bias, I wouldn’t believe an AP photograph if it showed the sun rising in the east.
You know that, and I know that. Everyone else doesn't. Get the word out and use the above pix as an example. Hillary needs our compassionate support now more than ever! ;)
41 posted on 05/18/2008 9:23:17 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: xDGx
From the article:

"Douglas County is among the rural Oregon counties that have suffered economically with the decline in the timber industry -- the main source of jobs in Roseburg and surrounding areas.

Obama drew cheers when he called for more research into converting wood chips into an alternative fuel source -- both to boost supplies of renewable energy and to create new jobs in timber-dependent communities.

Hmmmm. Which party is at the beck and call of the "green? movement which is responsible for the "decline in the timber industry"?

And given that decline, where are the woodchips going to come from to be converted to "an alternative fuel source -- both to boost supplies of renewable energy and to create new jobs in timber-dependent communities", which jobs have already been lost due to the Democrat-aided "decline in the timber industry".

Anyone who supports this ignorant, two-faced empty suit is certifiable.

42 posted on 05/18/2008 9:26:27 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: F15Eagle; Slings and Arrows; Knitting A Conundrum; speedy; Joe 6-pack; writer33; ...
When I saw "sea" it reminded me of Revelation 13 again...
43 posted on 05/18/2008 9:28:31 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: xDGx
I'm no Obama supporter, but that's a darned good crowd. I don't think the photographer did anything underhanded or anything. Here's a standard crowd shot from a UT game I did last year:

I used a telephoto to flatten the crowd and cropped to cut out the dead part of the stadium steps, etc.

I'll admit I get aggravated when photographers stage eight people together and crop tight to make it look like a big crowd, but 80,000 is a heck of a crowd. All they did was record it dramatically.

44 posted on 05/18/2008 9:29:38 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: xDGx

The California Jam was bigger. It had more rock stars too.


45 posted on 05/18/2008 9:29:51 PM PDT by cabojoe (God Bless Jim)
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To: Richard Kimball

I agree with you. People here are being overly sensitive, and a casual reader may think we are accusing the AP (falsely) of doctoring the photo by cutting and pasting crowds, or something underhanded like that. The fact remains that it was a bigger crowd than any Republican will get anywhere this year (2008), but still not any indication of what will happen in November.


46 posted on 05/18/2008 9:35:26 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: martin_fierro

75K people worshipping Obama is bad enough.


47 posted on 05/18/2008 9:41:02 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: nwrep
Agreed. Now, here's a doctored photo:


48 posted on 05/18/2008 9:42:19 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: martin_fierro

That sounds curiously close to our company slogan from a few years ago. Switch the word dumb for strong... it got a lot of mockery at the employee level I suspect (hope) that it sounded more inspirational in Japanese.


49 posted on 05/18/2008 9:42:29 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: xDGx

They also 'forgot' to 'report' that Obama's 'supporters' were dancing to an opening act, the Portland-based band The Decemberists.

50 posted on 05/18/2008 9:44:35 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Richard Kimball
I'm no Obama supporter, but that's a darned good crowd. I don't think the photographer did anything underhanded or anything. I used a telephoto to flatten the crowd and cropped to cut out the dead part of the stadium steps, etc. I'll admit I get aggravated when photographers stage eight people together and crop tight to make it look like a big crowd, but 80,000 is a heck of a crowd. All they did was record it dramatically.
Drama and accuracy are two different animals. If you are trying to sell shots showing lots of people and their team (or voters and their messiah) then you present them in their most favorable light. If you are trying to report ACCURATELY on an event, you don't selectively edit your image to make it appear that it is something it is not. Everyone has an idea of the relative capacity of a stadium. It provides scope and scale to reference a crowd against. A limitless sea of people provides no such scale, no horizons or boundaries. Even in Texas stadiums do not extend to infinity. Nor in Portland do Obama rallies. AP (& the photo editors) are telling a story that is not there. Playing fast & loose with numbers is an old canard (think 'Million Man March') and is a ploy to disillusion opposition. And like negative advertising, it works (sadly). Take a look at the weekend news photo leads and compare those of Obama with those of Clinton. Similar delegates in both states (51 vs. 52, IIRC) and one favors one candidate (by about 12 points) while the other favors the other (by a larger margin). Tell me the coverage is equal. Tell me the pictures coming out of each state are telling the same story. Tell me there is no bias in the people who are deciding which pictures get trotted out as 'objective news'. As for sports photography, I can slap a 300/2.8 on one of the Nikons and create drama too. But one is nothing more than wrasslin, while the other is determining the fate of a nation. Creative editing has no place in the news business.
51 posted on 05/18/2008 9:45:38 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: jkphoto

Ping to a pro.


52 posted on 05/18/2008 9:49:45 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: nwrep
I agree with you. People here are being overly sensitive, and a casual reader may think we are accusing the AP (falsely) of doctoring the photo by cutting and pasting crowds, or something underhanded like that. The fact remains that it was a bigger crowd than any Republican will get anywhere this year (2008), but still not any indication of what will happen in November.
Nowhere has 'doctoring' the photo by cutting & pasting crowds been suggested. What is undeniable is that the pictures were cropped to show the maximum amount of people and ZERO amount of anything else. No trees, no boundaries, no horizons, no edges, just people. And read the titles of the Obama reports on Google news. They are all agog over the 'record crowd' in Portland to hear Obama's lates message (hope? change?) Then they trot out a carefully cropped image to imply that this was the million man rally. (Since this is Portland, call it the 'Million Moonbat Rally') Tain't so! I dislike being spoon-fed selective imagery by MSM photo editors.
53 posted on 05/18/2008 9:51:34 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: xDGx
But .......... But ................ Where are all the torch carriers marching in formation?
54 posted on 05/18/2008 9:52:35 PM PDT by fella (Is he or is he murtadd? Only his iman knows for sure.)
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To: xDGx

McCain won’t draw 75,000 in a month of stops. Well, it may well be 500,000, but you have to subtract all the illegal aliens.


55 posted on 05/18/2008 9:56:33 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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See how a little cropping tells a different story?
56 posted on 05/18/2008 9:59:59 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: xDGx; devolve; potlatch; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; Liz; Squantos; F15Eagle; gonzo; Jeff Head

57 posted on 05/18/2008 10:01:30 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: xDGx; All
Why don't we seize the opportunity provided by the MSM's deification of Obama to permanently de-claw the IRS and get God back into the public school classrooms?

This post (<-click), while addressing taxes, helps to explain why government "leaders" like Obama are actually in contempt of the Constitution that they have sworn to defend, foolishly following in the footsteps of FDR's dirty federal spending politics.

In fact, the article referenced below shows that Obama is the #1 federal spending proposer in the Senate for '08; Clinton is #2.

Obama, a big-shot federal spender
And this post (<-click) exposes how corrupt justices then began using FDR's politically correct license to ignore the 10th A. to unlawfully stifle traditional family values, including the USSC's scandalous legalization of abortion in Roe v. Wade. Note that the post first references two non-abortion cases in order to show Roe v. Wade in a different, troubling perspective.

In fact, consider that the states have the constitutional power (10th A.) to authorize public schools to lead non-mandatory (14th A.) classroom discussions on the pros and cons of evolution, creationism and ID, as examples, regardless that atheists, separatists, pagan-minded judges and the MSM are misleading the people to think that doing such things in public schools is unconstitutional.

The people need to reconnect with the Founder's division of federal and state government powers. The people then need to wise up to the major problems that, since the days of FDR's dirty politics, the USSC has not only wrongly been ignoring the 10th A. protected power of the states to address religious issues, but also that Congress has not been operating within the restraints of the federal Constitution, particularly where constitutionally unauthorized federal spending is concerned.

The bottom line is that the people need to get in the faces of judges, demanding that judges uphold their oaths to defend the 10th A. protected powers of the states to address religious issues - or get off the bench. The people also need to send big-shot, Constitution-ignoring federal spenders like Obama home as opposed to trying to send people like him to the Oval Office. The people need to get in the faces of members of Congress, demanding a stop to constitutionally unauthorized federal spending while appropriately lowering federal taxes - or get out of DC.

Lincoln put it this way.

"We the People are the rightful master of both congress and the courts - not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." --Abraham Lincoln, Political debates between Lincoln and Douglas, 1858.

58 posted on 05/18/2008 10:05:37 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Oh what PhotoShop can do . . . some professionals have ethics then there are others.
59 posted on 05/18/2008 10:07:26 PM PDT by jkphoto (aka Mr. Mama_Bear)
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To: PhilDragoo; devolve; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP

Yankee Stadium Official seating capacity is 57,478.

This crowd was ‘estimated’ at 75 thousand.


60 posted on 05/18/2008 10:12:40 PM PDT by potlatch
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