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1 posted on 05/18/2008 7:00:00 PM PDT by CharlotteVRWC
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If Hillary knew all this stuff, why did she run for president in the first place?


2 posted on 05/18/2008 7:03:53 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (NOW can we drill for oil?)
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To: CharlotteVRWC
So Hillary plays the role of the victim, grabs the role of the uniter and savior of the Dem party after it collapses under the wieght of Obama’s fallen god disaster, and rolls up everything with a big win after McCain has done the heavy lifiting in 2012.

the thing is, so much can and will happen in the next four years... who knows who else is going to come along and steal the show... she cannot count of being the big uniter or the big savior in four years... there are others waiting in the wings with plans of their own... people we don't yet know about...

3 posted on 05/18/2008 7:05:04 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: CharlotteVRWC

But but but but she is too much of a meglomaniac to wait. She wants the power NOW NOW I say. Do NOT look me in the eye.


4 posted on 05/18/2008 7:05:26 PM PDT by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: CharlotteVRWC
Hillary doesn't have many option. As outlined, and if possible, this would probably be her best bet. I'm sure she'd pursue this path if she could.

On the other hand, by 2012, the Clintons will be very old news. Bill may be dead, and Hillary will look like hell. I suspect it won't go any better for her next time around either.

5 posted on 05/18/2008 7:05:36 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: CharlotteVRWC

Way too convoluted. Grassy knoll stuff.


6 posted on 05/18/2008 7:08:07 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: CharlotteVRWC
1) She is the undisputed leader for 2012.

That concept has been blown to smithereens. There will never again be an 'undisputed leader' until campaigns are in full swing.

8 posted on 05/18/2008 7:09:49 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: CharlotteVRWC

Until we see “the tape” I am not joining in the assumption that it exists.

If “it” does exist and Hillary has any access to it, then there are certainly ways her campaign could get it into the public domain without any “fingerprints” on it... through obscure websites unconnected with the campaign, etc.

There may be such a tape, but I doubt that the Clintonistas have it.

I find it very hard to believe that such a tape exists AND that anyone in the Clinton camp has it, or they would have found a way to use it before now.


9 posted on 05/18/2008 7:10:56 PM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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The powers that be in the Dem Party appear to have decided that Hillary is over. Once that’s happened, I don’t think anything can resurrect her.


10 posted on 05/18/2008 7:11:40 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: CharlotteVRWC

Michelle Obama could be on tape biting the heads off of a basket full of kittens and it wouldn’t cost Barry a single vote.


11 posted on 05/18/2008 7:13:12 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (NOW can we drill for oil?)
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There are a lot of signs that the public is tiring of the Clintons. I think they will be even more tired of them in 2012. (And for God’s sake, I hope I’m right on that. Enough with them already.) Plus I think that above all else, Hillary wants to win NOW.


13 posted on 05/18/2008 7:14:53 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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I don't agree. No one invests $10M of their own money for a possible win in 2012. She has got to find such dirt on Obama that no one will back him and the supers will come flooding her way again. Timing is everything. She probably has that dirt now, but its too soon to release it. A couple days before the convention is my bet.
14 posted on 05/18/2008 7:17:45 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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She holds off, battles to the end, and makes sure the **GOP** uses the tape AFTER Obama has it locked up the nomination at the convention.

As I think about this, I find it less likely.

I know that McCain is a pansy, but a street-fighting politician would receive this gift and do the following:

1) October surprise -- Look everybody! Look at my opponent Obama! Do you want to vote for such a guy??

2) Enjoy the destruction of the Democrat candidate.

3) December surprise -- By the way everyone, do you know who really torpedoed Obama? It was Hillary! Yeah, she gave me the tape! Looked like the Democrats were going to capture the White House there. Looked like a black man was really going to be president. But Hillary killed that. Yeah, she gave me the tape, and made sure that the country got 4 more years of Republican rule, all because she didn't want the black guy to win!

4) Enjoy the destruction of the primary threat for 2012.

15 posted on 05/18/2008 7:19:15 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: CharlotteVRWC
Interesting scenario but what if someone else gets the tape and blows the whistle? Clinton would end up the nominee after all, and all the fallout of the next four years could well land on her shoulders!
20 posted on 05/18/2008 7:36:07 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: CharlotteVRWC

If Hillary has something she puts it out and blames it on Republicans. Then again, the press is starting to catch on to that trick...


21 posted on 05/18/2008 7:39:41 PM PDT by GOPJ (The "thug-way" - Hill won't stop 'til she wins or Obama accepts her as VP .)
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Hillary will not quit because she does not want to be tagged with the “quitter” label.
Even ib osamaobama wins in ‘08 she will challenge him for the party nomination for ‘12. Kennedy challanged Carter in ‘80 and as flawed a character as he is the Dems had no problem with it. Hillary will run in ‘08 regardless of whether osamaobama wins in ‘08 or not.


22 posted on 05/18/2008 7:43:21 PM PDT by mrmargaritaville
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To: CharlotteVRWC

Any scenario is possible in this unimaginable political year of 2008. And the surprises are not over yet.

If the tape gets out, Hillary’s fingerprints will NOT be on it. This way she is not blamed for it, but can use it to her advantage in knocking down Obama and keeping the blacks in her corner. Many blacks are turned off by Rev. Wright and his ilk, and Hillary knows that enough will stay and vote for her that any losses to Obama can be overcome( not a pun). Antipathy will abound.

She’s in it to win it—I don’t count her out yet. Primaries, fun with superdelegates, and Florida and Michigan all lie ahead.

Popcorn, anyone?


24 posted on 05/18/2008 7:53:47 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: CharlotteVRWC; Perdogg

John Bachelor is talking about “this tape” on KFI 640 am right now with Monica Crowley and John Fund.


27 posted on 05/18/2008 8:17:52 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: CharlotteVRWC

Honestly, people are so wacked out when it comes to BHO, I am not sure that even video of him advocating sharia law would make a difference.


30 posted on 05/18/2008 8:44:41 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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Good morning Arderkrag, I had mentioned this a couple of days ago about this possible tape on Michelle. I thought you might want to read this. Cheers! : )
37 posted on 05/19/2008 3:00:59 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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bttt


40 posted on 05/19/2008 7:35:46 PM PDT by GOPJ
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