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Polygamy? It's positively biblical
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 5/18/08 | Martha Nussbaum

Posted on 05/18/2008 12:35:02 AM PDT by ansel12

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To: bvw
True friendship is nay built on appeasement!

Then again, little is built on offering snarky zero-content replies. See this post for an excellent example.

161 posted on 05/18/2008 12:28:28 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: Politicalmom
Why should the man have women fighting over him and catering to his every whim,

One -- that's a formula for a terrible marriage, that a woman caters to a man's every whim. Two -- do you know of any marriages where a woman caters to a man's every whim? Three -- the recipe for a healthy marriage is not quite that a husband gives in to his wife's every whim, but it is close.

And that applies to mono, serial, or poly.

162 posted on 05/18/2008 12:31:46 PM PDT by bvw
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To: TheWasteLand

Thou art still a debtor, content-wise, imo.


163 posted on 05/18/2008 12:33:47 PM PDT by bvw
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To: ansel12
On so many questions, Martha Nussbaum sacrifices being right to being interesting.

And she's not actually very interesting either.

Her starting point is usually to attack some idea of patriarchy or the autonomous individual or ethnocentrism and draw conclusions from that.

But she doesn't do much to support her premises and if you aren't convinced by them, you won't find her conclusions very compelling either.

164 posted on 05/18/2008 12:34:08 PM PDT by x
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To: bvw
Thou art still a debtor, content-wise, imo.

I still see nothing substantive here...

165 posted on 05/18/2008 12:36:33 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: Politicalmom

King David’s polygamy was for the most part, happy. He avoided taking on too many wives, and as King, he certainly could afford them all.


166 posted on 05/18/2008 12:37:51 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Caipirabob

I am opposed to polygamy as well, but it just seems everything that made America great in the 1940s and 50s is looked down upon as being a great evil. The idea of living like the Cleavers is foriegn to modern America.


167 posted on 05/18/2008 12:40:29 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: bvw

A woman should do things to make her husband happy. When she’s doing them to curry favor and one-up another wife, that’s sick.

You obviously think women are chattel and valueless. Any man who would marry a woman and think she would be thrilled to have him bring home another one is delusional.

Any man that could do that to a woman is cruel and sadistic.


168 posted on 05/18/2008 12:50:44 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Real Republicans do not have a barbed wire rash from sitting on the fence./GOP '08,- NO Soup for YOU)
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To: bvw

Let’s just forget that he felt he had the right to have another man killed to add onto his harem.

He wasn’t satisfied with what he had, he had to steal from someone else.

Selfishness, jealousy, spite, favoritism, abuse, all products of polygamy.


169 posted on 05/18/2008 12:55:30 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Real Republicans do not have a barbed wire rash from sitting on the fence./GOP '08,- NO Soup for YOU)
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To: Politicalmom
What makes you think that I think that "women are chattel and valueless" -- is it only because I have tried to defend, to some extent, polygamy? That's how I read what you have said.

I did say that monogamy is the ideal! I've been at some points to stick to the theme that polygamy is a lesser condition, but that it can be preferred in some cases. In the case of kings, marriages are also joins of state to state -- so many wives was the norm, and a happy thing.

170 posted on 05/18/2008 1:00:31 PM PDT by bvw
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To: LukeL
I am opposed to polygamy as well, but it just seems everything that made America great in the 1940s and 50s is looked down upon as being a great evil. The idea of living like the Cleavers is foriegn to modern America.

You are so very right. I didn't take it as advocation of polygamy. I took it as relativism. In the sense that we're being assaulted by so many evils at once, pick one...It's hard to believe it's not coordinated.

171 posted on 05/18/2008 1:00:46 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Politicalmom
Look for the good.

How in our own day does the media and the sheeple they lead distort the honest records and words of President Bush! So it was then too.

172 posted on 05/18/2008 1:02:33 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Happy for whom? Have you ever met women who were part of a bonding of property and estates? Happy for one, but not the rest......

Fairy tales are made of such.


173 posted on 05/18/2008 1:05:06 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: samtheman
Why would a marxist praise polygamy? Simple. They are enraged at the end of the Soviet Union and are trying everything they know, including supporting muzzies, to bring down western civilization.

That is very true. The other thing is that in Marxism, relationships between people are depersonalized and made utilitarian. Individual love is frowned on, and certainly committment is anathema(because it means there just might be something greater than the all-powerful State). The Marxist goal is barracks of men and women who come together occasionally and randomly for sex, and then go back to the main project in life, which is making life nice for the Party leaders.

But come to think of it, that's true of any cult...

174 posted on 05/18/2008 1:23:50 PM PDT by livius
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To: Colofornian
How paganly ignorant can you get!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL! Too true. Just because something appeared in the Bible does not mean that it was recommended. In fact, it usually appeared because it was being held up as a bad example and God was going to do something about it...

175 posted on 05/18/2008 1:26:37 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Bookmark, great post!


176 posted on 05/18/2008 1:51:49 PM PDT by Valpal1 (OW! My head just exploded!)
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To: ansel12

It’s rather typical of Martha Nussbaum to just blather on about things, oblivious to her own errors. For example, isn’t it rich how she brings up the polygyny aspect cited in the Torah in support of Joseph Smith...despite the fact that Joseph Smith’s version of polygamy had him involved with the wives of other men.


177 posted on 05/18/2008 2:20:19 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: livius

Great post. That’s a keeper.


178 posted on 05/18/2008 2:26:54 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: TheWasteLand
Serial polygamy, legalized by current divorce laws, has wrought enormous destruction upon our culture.

Very good point.

Also most folks don't know that divorce in 19th century Utah was quite high for that century. One historian took a look at a case study of hundreds of polygamous men and found that almost 1 in 5 were divorced. Brigham Young himself of 56 wives were divorced by 9 of them. (That's a 9-time divorcee!)

179 posted on 05/18/2008 3:17:29 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: bvw

Sure. One of David’s sons raped his half-sister, then another one went on a murderous rampage, and then he raped David’s concubines on the palace roof.

The women were constantly trying to increase their own prestige, and that of their own children. Sounds really “happy”.


180 posted on 05/18/2008 4:25:33 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Real Republicans do not have a barbed wire rash from sitting on the fence./GOP '08,- NO Soup for YOU)
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