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If I Did That Over There, They'd Cut My Hands Off
San Diego Reader ^ | May 14, 2008 | Bill Manson

Posted on 05/17/2008 9:30:39 AM PDT by Defiant

What’s it like, being Muslim in San Diego?

The question arose for me earlier this year when I decided to hit Ocean Beach on maybe the worst night of the winter. It was Wednesday, the end of market day. Rainstorms exploding in off the Pacific, marquees flapping, most market folks packing up, re-boxing their fruit. But not the guys in the black tent near where Bacon crosses Newport. From inside the gust-wrenched canvas, half a dozen men shouted to scurrying passersby to come on in for the ultimate hand-warmer. Guled and Mohammed and Abdi and Hamza and a bunch of other young Somali men were selling the thing I’d weathered the storm to find: samosas, the Middle East and India’s great snack gift to the world. Aah, yes. Down in three gulps. A beef, a vegetarian, and a Californian adaptation (cream cheese and pineapple), all enclosed in hot, golden, flaky pastry.

We got to talking. These laughing guys were all students. All Muslim. All living a double life. Studying by night, selling samosas by day at the various farmers’ markets around town, including here and at UCSD. I’d always known the Somalis were an outgoing group. Somalia embraces the longest seaboard in Africa. They’re coastal people who have survived strangers with different cultures landing on their shores for millennia.

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To: Ken522

What do you eat with? YOur feet?


21 posted on 05/17/2008 11:41:19 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: piytar
And why EVERY single armed conflict in the world today has muslims on one side and seculars/Christians/jews/other muslims on the other?

Genesis 16:

7 The angel of the LORD found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur. 8 And he said, "Hagar, servant of Sarai, where have you come from, and where are you going?" "I'm running away from my mistress Sarai," she answered.

9 Then the angel of the LORD told her, "Go back to your mistress and submit to her."

10 The angel added, "I will so increase your descendants that they will be too numerous to count."

11 The angel of the LORD also said to her: "You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard of your misery.

12 He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers."

22 posted on 05/17/2008 11:42:49 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: ishabibble

Palmer Method Certificate?


23 posted on 05/17/2008 11:56:31 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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To: Grizzled Bear

That was meant as a retorical question, but you gave one very good answer!


24 posted on 05/17/2008 12:00:07 PM PDT by piytar
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To: mamelukesabre; Ken522
What do you eat with? YOur feet?

Welcome to Western Civilization!


25 posted on 05/17/2008 12:33:21 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

Very funny.

Do you eat:

tacos
burritos
hoagies
hamburgers
onion rings
cheeseburgers
potato chips
corn chips
gyros
pizza
grilled cheese
ruebens
tuna salad sandwiches

If so, do you use those shiny metal utinsils in pictured in your post? Or do you just use your hands?


26 posted on 05/17/2008 1:01:50 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: wastedyears

That is hardly a Muslim thing. Cultures throughout history have seen left-handedness as distinctly evil.
The word “sinister” means left-handed.
See: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sinister


27 posted on 05/17/2008 1:12:02 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: Defiant

Very sweet, but it’s at best wallpapering over a religion that draws much of it’s identity from rules.

Superobvious even in this puff piece on how important it is to adhere to rules that separate you out.


28 posted on 05/17/2008 1:21:50 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Defiant
But you don’t always have to assimilate to the new place you come to. You can keep your culture.

The most telling quote of the entire article.

29 posted on 05/17/2008 1:50:56 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Ken522

LOL!

Hell yeah I eat with my fingers & drink the soup from a bowl. & when we’re in love, a couple will feed each other, putting the food in each other’s mouths. *Mizrahi pride* :D


30 posted on 05/17/2008 1:52:21 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: mountainbunny

I’m not sinister

Wow, I would have been persecuted had I lived a few hundred years ago.


31 posted on 05/17/2008 1:58:12 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

This writer is just practicing to be a good dhimmi .... don’t be so harsh...


32 posted on 05/17/2008 2:02:45 PM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: wastedyears

I’m sure you aren’t bad at all :)

But you possibly would have been treated as such just a few hundred years ago.

I have left-handed family members whom I love and adore. Odd to think that they would be seen as “bad” in another time.


33 posted on 05/17/2008 2:10:47 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: ishabibble

I’m sorry - eat with your right hand, wipe with your left. Some civilization.


34 posted on 05/17/2008 2:12:18 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Sherman Logan

There are several Muslim Mosques in San Diego County which has a pop. of over 3 million.
There are also over 30,000 Iraqis here.

The terrorists that flew into the Pentagon on 9/11 were living in San Diego over a year.


35 posted on 05/17/2008 2:15:08 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: alloysteel

Hahaha, thanks for elaborating on the eating customs of the sand-pounders.


36 posted on 05/17/2008 2:18:41 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Defiant

Friends of mine with lots of Africa experience tell me that continent-wide, Somalis are despised for being lying, cheating, stealing, entitled, groups. And that is saying a lot for Africa.


37 posted on 05/17/2008 6:29:59 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Nude dancing in North America)
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To: Defiant

Friends of mine with lots of Africa experience tell me that continent-wide, Somalis are despised for being lying, cheating, stealing, entitled, groups. And that is saying a lot for Africa.


38 posted on 05/17/2008 6:30:00 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Nude dancing in North America)
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To: All

http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/


39 posted on 05/17/2008 8:19:34 PM PDT by cyberella
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To: FormerLib

I think the concern with the left hand being unclean in Islam involves the fact that they have not had the concept of toilet paper until recently, if at all. Extra yuck factor attached to the left hand.


40 posted on 05/17/2008 8:45:18 PM PDT by Defiant (McCain's big vein drains mainly from his brain.)
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