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The President Goes Negative [learned at the feet of Karl Rove and the late Lee Atwater....]
New York Times ^

Posted on 05/17/2008 6:52:27 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

The President Goes Negative

President Bush’s penchant for slash-and-burn politics, learned at the feet of Karl Rove and the late Lee Atwater, is unseemly when practiced at home. It is shameful for the president and damaging for the country when put on display abroad.

So it was especially distressing to hear Mr. Bush’s barely veiled attack against Senator Barack Obama in front of Israel’s Parliament. In a speech honoring Israel’s 60th anniversary, Mr. Bush likened those who call for talks with “terrorists and radicals” to those who appeased the Nazis.

“We have an obligation to call this what it is,” he declared, “the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.” There are few words more fraught than “appeasement” and no place where they carry more emotional weight than in Israel.

When Mr. Obama and other Democrats objected, the White House press secretary, Dana Perino, insisted the president’s remarks had nothing to do with Mr. Obama and slyly suggested that the Democratic senator was being narcissistic. Mr. Bush’s counselor, Ed Gillespie, then expressed surprise that no one had interpreted the president’s words as a rebuke to former President Jimmy Carter — which he said, sort of, that it wasn’t.

No one bought that — including, we suspect, Mr. Gillespie and Ms. Perino. Senator John McCain certainly had no trouble decoding the remark. He spent much of his week running away from Mr. Bush but endorsed this language enthusiastically. He also said that it was Mr. Obama’s responsibility to explain why he was willing to talk with Iran.

Senator Obama has called for talking with Iran and Syria, as have this editorial page and scores of foreign-policy experts from both political parties. None have suggested surrendering to these countries’ demands, which is, after all, what appeasement is.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demoratappeasers; demoratslimelies; demoratterrorists; nyslimespukefest; usedtamponsulzberger
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To: Sub-Driver

Propagandists lying to amplify Barack’s self-annointed victim status. Deceivers, deceiving.


21 posted on 05/17/2008 7:14:19 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Sub-Driver

I won’t waste one blood pressure point responding to these a**holes.


22 posted on 05/17/2008 7:14:50 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: Diogenesis

BUMP-TO-THE-TRUTH!


23 posted on 05/17/2008 7:15:40 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: CommieCutter

Yes, our President has been under attack by those that hate our method of election, from the day he took office.

The President is right on target,I’m with him all the way.


24 posted on 05/17/2008 7:16:47 AM PDT by LetMarch ((If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward--Anonymous))
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To: Sub-Driver

And not a word on the substance of the charge. Sounds like an admission that they are appeasers. They just don’t want people talking about it.


25 posted on 05/17/2008 7:17:41 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Sub-Driver
Senator Obama has called for talking with Iran and Syria, as have this editorial page and scores of foreign-policy experts from both political parties.

Liar, liar, pants on fire :-p

Senator Barack Hussein Obama has called for presidential level face to face talks with Iran, Syria, Cuba, Venezuela, and N. Korea................. IN THE FIRST YEAR OF HIS PRESIDENCY!!!!

26 posted on 05/17/2008 7:18:18 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Sub-Driver

The liberal NYSlimes is still whining about Bush`s spot on rhetoric blasting anti-war Democrat appeasers. Hey Jimmah Carter and Barry Obama, if the shoe fits ....


27 posted on 05/17/2008 7:19:16 AM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Not to worry, the only people left who read this once great paper are the extreme left wingers. They think the same and act the same as the current owner of the Times. What are all the Kool-Aid drinkers going to do when the NYT completes its journey to the dust bin? Maybe left wing talk radio will fill the gap and finally make it.


28 posted on 05/17/2008 7:19:36 AM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: Sub-Driver

Actually, the president’s aids said the remarks were aimed at Jimah Cahtah.


29 posted on 05/17/2008 7:22:57 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Sub-Driver

30 posted on 05/17/2008 7:23:37 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: Izzy Dunne
Doesn't the NYT remember what happened when Clinton and Albright engaged in "direct engagement" with North Korea?

Oh yeah, I forgot. They remember it as a smashing success that bought Kim Jong Il enough time to announce his development of nuclear weapons during a Republican Administration. I can see why they're so happy Obama would take the same approach with Iran.

The New York Times is clearly in favor of the Democrat Party's foreign policy of punting on any problems during a Democrat Administration in order to lay it in the lap of their Republican successors, thereby making their Presidents look like foreign policy successes. I call this strategy "Peace in our time, war in theirs."
31 posted on 05/17/2008 7:30:18 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: montag813

Considering he was on foreign soil. Could he also have had foreign leaders in mind? I think it is interesting that this hasn’t occurred to anyone in the MSM.


32 posted on 05/17/2008 7:33:25 AM PDT by PrincessB ("I am an expert on my own opinion." - Dave Ramsey)
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To: dalebert
Bush spoke the truth.

Telling the truth IS going negative with the rats.

33 posted on 05/17/2008 7:34:19 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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To: Sub-Driver
We also yearn for a more civilized and respectful political dialogue. That is essential for a healthy democracy. It is also essential for regaining the world’s respect.

I guess the editorial board of the “Newspaper of Record” has not been paying attension to world events.

The Democracies of the world have been electing leaders who are pro-American one after another in the past couple of years.

But on the other hand maybe the respect of Democracies of the world is not the respect the Times yearns for.

34 posted on 05/17/2008 7:36:13 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Sub-Driver

They don’t think it’s unseemly and shameful when CARTER does it.


35 posted on 05/17/2008 7:37:02 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Sub-Driver

Bush can send the RATs into a self-destructive frenzy any old time he wants to because of BDS. In hating someone you give control of yourself to your enemies. The RATs hate Bush so he controls them. Bush doesn’t hate them so they don’t control him. Part of what drove them batsh*t was what he said, but a lot of it was who said it. It’s too bad Shakespeare isn’t alive today - he could write an incredible play with Biden, Kerry, Daschle, Reid, Pelosi and all the rest!


36 posted on 05/17/2008 7:40:38 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Sub-Driver

There is a long, long list of outrageous ads my the RATS with no NY SLIMES condemnation. When the first Bush went negative on Clinton in 1992, the SLIMES wrote the same kind of editorial and Bush backed off. We saw the result.


37 posted on 05/17/2008 7:42:41 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Sub-Driver

If you’re taking flak, it means you’re over the target!


38 posted on 05/17/2008 7:44:16 AM PDT by poindexter
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To: Sub-Driver
When I read the first two paragraphs of this editorial, I said, "This is a very good parody." Then I checked and realized it wasn't a parody. The Times really has descended this far into historical irrelevancy.

Anyone who doesn't think the history of dealing with dictators in the past is relevant to current dictators is so stupid, so out of touch, so dangerous to others that he shouldn't be out in public without a keeper. Yet that is exactly the position of the Times staffers who wrote, approved and published this drivel.

Murdoch needs to use the Wall Street Journal to drive the NY Times into the mud, the same way and for the same reason that Fox News has driven CNN into the mud. It can't happen soon enough.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "King George Wears a Black Robe"

39 posted on 05/17/2008 7:44:40 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ( www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh yeah...
It’s that EVIL ROVE AGAIN!

And he’s not even connected to the White House, anymore!

It’s HARD for leftists to give up thier boogeymen.


40 posted on 05/17/2008 7:46:24 AM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEMOCRAT-You'll look great in a Burka!)
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