U.S. House defeats $162.5 bln in new war funds (By a vote of 149-141....)

Reuters ^

[dforest]

BTTT

[samtheman]

Ok. #43 & #46 answered my question. Thanks.

[mad_as_he$$]

How can the Senate overturn a House spending bill?

[napscoordinator]

Sorry it was a poor post. Although from your post to me you seem pretty “Einstein” to me. I guess I get to feel how those in the 70’s with Jimmy Carter and an inept congress and tried to survive. I remember those horrible years as I was 7, but what I really remember is sitting in my dad's car waiting to get gas. Ugh. To me that was the worst thing possible. It just seems like the country is going “70’s” again.

[caseinpoint]

I don’t blame you for feeling as you do. I lived through the seventies too and it was not fun watching friends lose their homes to escalating interest rates, waiting in line for gas and so forth.

I think we really need to fight the frustration of this election by launching long-term plans to get the Republican Party back to its roots in Conservatism. That means, to me, pulling money out of the GOP and pooling it in large enough quantities through a PAC or such to make the GOP listen when we talk. We also need to look for our new Reagans and get them started on the road to the White House. I don’t want to give in to that bitterness and clinging that Obama derided so I find it best to look beyond the mark and start doing something to fix the problems that will arise.

Hang in there. At least we’ve got each other. ;o)

[Dick Vomer]

I am not going to vote for McCain. I will vote for local and state offices. The Rats would walk all over him anyway.Let Obama win and *if we survive*, a good conservative should win in 2012. Why prolong the agony. Let the stuff hit the fan and wake up the stupid American people.

i'm leaning to doing the same. McCain just sucks a##. What a hump. He's Bob Dole without a sense of humor.

I'd like to see what the reaction to an Obama victory would be by the Republican talking asshats.

That includes Gingrich since he's gotten on the environmental bandwagon.

I'll vote for Congress and the Senate but only in an effort to put a conservative in office. I'm not "settling" anymore.

It really doesn't matter....

Like the great philosophers once said....

"Here's to the new boss
Same as the old boss....

won't get fooled again.

[bpjam]

funny how nobody in the MSM ever talks about how Pelosi is oveseeing an 18% approval rating in Congress. The worst EVER!!!!! In fact, Democrats have controlled Congress during the three WORST approval periods in its illustrious history.

[dangus]

Just so you realize: the defeat of this bill was organized by conservatives who were outraged that the final bill included a massive new amnesty for 2 million+ illegal aliens, all forms of new wretched social programs, and other travesties. Now the House has to start over, with a better bill.

[dangus]

Exactly right: the voters who responded “present” were the GOOD guys. The bill had been hijacked, and included a timetable for withdrawal, a massive amnesty, and disastrous social spending.

[SolidWood]

Why can’t you folks read the comments before posting!? Read #35, 37, 40, 43, 46.

[VeniVidiVici]

It doesn’t freaking matter. If the stupid Republicans don’t do their part in the propaganda war their little parlimentary moves are for naught.

The Democrats have the bully pulpit and can phrase these votes as they want. Unless we hammer them on it (which will NEVER happen) it doesn’t make a bit of difference.

[SolidWood]

Nonsense. It would have been a Democrat victory in the PR war, if the Republicans had voted NO on this bill. Imagine the headlines: “132 Republicans want to defund war”, “House GOP unites with Democrats against Bush” or “Republicans vote no on bill that would benefit vets”. They did the right thing by abstaining from this bad bill.

[dread78645]

But 141 "yeas" and 132 "present" adds up to 273 Republicans -- 63% of the House. But there are only 199 Republican members of the 110th Congress.

85 Dems + 56 Reps voted Yea. 147 Ds and 2 Rs voted Nay, 132 Reps voted present. H R 2642 YEA-AND-NAY

You get the 'F'.

The alternative is that many of the "yeas" were Democrats.

Many were.

And, if many Democrats were in favor of the bill, why weren't most Republicans?

Huh? Most Rs did vote for it. But this war isn't nearly as popular as you seem to think it is ...

[VeniVidiVici]

And by voting ‘present’ the Democrats will claim the Republicans voted against expanding college money for veterans.

Whose version will make the play in the press? I’ll give you a big clue: it won’t be ours.

[SolidWood]

The House GOP leader explains it this way:

That legislative legerdemain became the plan’s undoing. Rather than go along, 131 House Republicans voted “present” on the war funding provision, saying they were incensed that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and a few of her lieutenants had drafted the bill in secret, then expected them to play along.

“It was a political scheme. We wanted to expose it, and we did,” declared House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio).

[VeniVidiVici]

Here you go. Three links that have to do with the vote. NONE mention anything close to why the Republicans voted they way they did.

Yahoo just rubberstamps Reuters. The Washington Post mentioned a little one-liner about the Democrats playing politics, and the NYT said the Republicans voted the way they did in “protest”. Big whoop.

The rest of the Post and NYT articles are propaganda pieces for the Democrats.

THIS! is why they need to be more outspoken. If it means buying ads and commercial time, so be it. So far reelection funds haven’t worked worth a hill of beans so they may as well put the money where it will do some good.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080515/pl_nm/iraq_usa_funds_defeat_dc

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/15/AR2008051502874.html?nav=rss_email/components

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/washington/16cong.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=house+bill+war&st=nyt&oref=slogin

[Stonewall Jackson]

Democrats outnumbered Republicans on voting in support of this, 85-56. Arrgh!!!

[ZULU]

Those DemocRats are sneaky.