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If this doesn't get you to pull the lever for John McCain, no matter how distasteful that might be, what will? Our sworn enemies have made their preference known far-and-wide: They love the idea of a Barack Obama administration, and are even working towards it!
1 posted on 05/14/2008 9:22:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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PING!
2 posted on 05/14/2008 9:31:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
even talking about the possibility of an "obama administration" is worse than being in some horrible drug-induced nightmare.

the muzzies are lining up to have their butts osculated in a demonstration of american capitulation which obama would gladly and skillfully perform

3 posted on 05/14/2008 9:33:33 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Since first bidding for a Senate seat from New York, she has become ultra-conservative on the issue.

What is to the right of "ultra-conservative"? It certainly isn't "neo-con".

4 posted on 05/14/2008 9:48:23 PM PDT by weegee (Vote NO on Marxism in 2008.)
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Obama: “If you don’t think my Hamas endorsement is good enough, I also boast a nice endorsement from the Tehran Times!”


5 posted on 05/14/2008 10:00:49 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama: My 1930s Foreign Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Social Policy!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ping for later.


8 posted on 05/14/2008 10:48:55 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Per Wikipedia:

“On the night of September 30, 1965, six of Indonesia’s top anti-communist generals were kidnapped, killed and thrown down a well at Lubang Buaya (literally translated : Crocodile Dungeons) Area, East Jakarta. One survivor, the staunchly anti-communist General Abdul Haris Nasution, escaped the murder plot, but lost his youngest daughter, Ade Irma Suryani Nasution, and his aide-de-camp, Lieutenant Pierre Tendean. The events and supposed coup plotters of that night are referred to as “G30S/PKI,” an abbreviation of “Gerakan 30 September,” or “the September 30th Movement.”

“Major General Suharto, commander of the Army’s strategic reserves cracked down on the Communist Party. The army encouraged anti-communist organizations and individuals to join in killing anyone suspected of being a communist sympathizer. The killings were concentrated in Sumatra, East Java and Bali and were largely over by early 1966. Estimates of those killed in the purge range from 78,000 to over 1 million, with most estimates agreeing that at least half a million were killed.[11] The ethnic Chinese were also targeted, primarily for economic and racial reasons. The embassy of the PRC [Peoples Republic of China] was overrun by demonstrators and looted.”

“An official CIA report called the purge “one of the worst mass murders of the 20th century.”2 American diplomats 25 years later revealed that they had compiled lists of Indonesian “communist operatives” and had turned over as many as 5,000 names to the Indonesian military.[12]”

“Sukarno’s grip on power was weakened by the crisis, while Suharto used the situation to strengthen his own hand. On March 11, 1966, Suharto and his supporters in the military forced Sukarno to issue a Presidential Order called Supersemar (Surat Perintah Sebelas Maret — The March 11 Order), in which Sukarno gave orders to Suharto only to restore peace and order, not to transfer of power to him. After obtaining the Presidential Order, Suharto had the PKI declared illegal and the party was abolished. He also arrested many high ranking officials that were loyal to Sukarno on the charge of being PKI members and/or sympathizers, further reducing Sukarno’s political power and influence.”

“In 1991 a government minister admitted that the national archives only possessed a copy of this letter, and in 1992 another government minister called for whoever is in possession of the original document to submit it to the national archives. However, there is testimony from several eyewitnesses who claim that such a document did exist and that the copy in the archives is a faithful reproduction of the original.”

“Sukarno was stripped of his presidential title by Majelis Permusyawaratan Rakyat (Provisional Peoples Representative Assembly) on March 12, 1967, led by his former ally, Nasution, and remained under house arrest until his death at age 69 in Jakarta in 1970. He was buried in Blitar, East Java, Indonesia. In recent decades, his grave has been a significant venue in the network of places that Javanese visit on ziarah and for some is of equal significance to those of the Wali Songo.”

“While the semi-official version of the events of 1965-1966 claims that the Indonesian Communist Party (PKI) ordered the murders of the six generals, others blame Sukarno, and still others believe Suharto orchestrated the assassinations to remove potential rivals for the presidency.[13]”

Note: Sukarno was diagnosed with kidney disease on Aug.9, 1965.

Neither Sukarno nor Suharto were nice people. I really don’t see how the U.S. and the CIA can be blamed for all this carnage. Sounds like ancient grudges IMHO


9 posted on 05/14/2008 11:06:43 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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"n my mind I prepare for business as usual."

I agree, with more of the same. Obama just as elitist as Clinton or McCain.

10 posted on 05/14/2008 11:21:33 PM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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I wonder if the Obama campaign contacted the Tehran Times seeking an endorsement like John Kerry’s campaign did in ‘04? Obama probably didn’t need to (not that Kerry needed to either).


11 posted on 05/14/2008 11:47:59 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another ringing endorsement for the Big O from the newspaper of record in Tehran.


12 posted on 05/15/2008 1:01:50 AM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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a vote for b. HUSSEIN in november will ensure the new spring clothes fashions will include burkhas and turbins!!!!

that WILL reshape US foreign and domestic policy!!!


13 posted on 05/15/2008 2:21:38 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will pull the lever for McCain when he moves to the right and only then.

Even now he is only interested in himself, he is providing no leadership for the party. Anything a conservative does McStupid hammers them.


14 posted on 05/15/2008 3:48:51 AM PDT by stockpirate (Purge the RNC and GOP of ALL SOCIALISTS . Starting with Juan McCain.)
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Jonathan Steele, a well known small ‘c’ communist and rabid America-hater, endorses obama....what a surprise.


15 posted on 05/15/2008 4:34:16 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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16 posted on 05/15/2008 4:58:54 AM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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I put this thread on the Key word list ...presbushknesset08...

because it has some nice background reading on Obama and Foreign Policy.

17 posted on 05/15/2008 12:35:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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