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Vatican: Okay to Believe in Aliens
Breitbart.com ^ | 5.13.08

Posted on 05/13/2008 1:10:00 PM PDT by meandog

VATICAN CITY (AP) - The Vatican's chief astronomer says that believing in aliens does not contradict faith in God. The Rev. Jose Gabriel Funes, the Jesuit director of the Vatican Observatory, says that the vastness of the universe means it is possible there could be other forms of life outside Earth, even intelligent ones.

In an interview published Tuesday by Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, Funes says that such a notion "doesn't contradict our faith" because aliens would still be God's creatures.

The interview was headlined "The extraterrestrial is my brother." Funes said that ruling out the existence of aliens would be like "putting limits" on God's creative freedom.


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To: thefrankbaum; NYer

Unless we use these aliens for pets or cattle that would violate the dominion doctrine, I think.


61 posted on 05/13/2008 3:20:07 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Paisan
"I suspect that not ALL Aliens are Good Guys..."

Certainly possible...however, CS Lewis pondered what might happen if we ever encountered beings from a planet where the inhabitants had not fallen from grace.

62 posted on 05/13/2008 3:23:54 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: meandog

Klaatu barado nikto qui es in caelis. Adfectus? Malefactor?


63 posted on 05/13/2008 3:26:13 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: Las Vegas Dave; Quix

Thanks, LVD. Had pinged Quix on the topic earlier today.


64 posted on 05/13/2008 3:26:28 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: meandog
This is nothing new. I have a book by a priest, published back in the 1950s, that said the same thing. The possibility of alien life has never been denied by the Catholic Church.

There have been numerous articles by priests discussing the possible status of such aliens. According to the articles, these possible statuses include (but are not limited to):

There have been numerous science fiction stories dealing with the theological statuses of aliens. Some of the stories were pretty good, some not good. Science fiction, like everything else, is subject to Sturgeon's Law: Ninety percent of everything is crap.

65 posted on 05/13/2008 3:27:51 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: rosenfan

PLEASE, PLEASE

go to

HTTP://WWW.STANTONFRIEDMAN.COM

and find semi retired physicist Stanton’s SETI doc.

He easily shreds the whole charade.

While you’re there, it would evidently be possible to markedly increase your awareness of the more serious aspects of the scope of the more substantial evidence.

You are evidently unaware that there are more than 3,000 cases of UFO . . . visitations . . .

which left AT LEAST HARD, TANGIBLE, MEASUREABLE TRACE EVIDENCE.


66 posted on 05/13/2008 3:36:01 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: sailor4321

The ET’s don’t share much info . . .

and much of what they share conflicts race to race and often otherwise.

They are exceedingly UNtrustworthy.

Though they seem to have captured the rapt attention and gahgah addicted submission of a whole host of New Agers.


67 posted on 05/13/2008 3:36:03 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: rosenfan

I don’t keep the better known race labels in mind . . .

There’s several varieties of greys.

There’s several varieties such as the “Nordics” who look exactly like humans or nearly so and can pass as humans quite easily.

There’s a variety of reptilians . . . some would include the greys in such a category. Others, not.

There’s even at least one group of critters that look quite like the blue critters in Whitley Strieber’s movie COMMUNION.

There’s reportedly a rarish greenish variety of bi-pedal; two armed etc. critters.

There are websites with drawings of the major types.

Some folks say there’s more than 70 different ET races observing and/or dinking around with earth. Some say it’s more than 90.

Time will tell.

Thankfully, God has more than 2/3 of the ANGEL ARMIES on His side . . . as well as the power of HIS WORD.


68 posted on 05/13/2008 3:36:03 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: rosenfan

That’s a heavily secreted topic . . . and some researchers have reportedly been quite deliberately scared away from talking about it at all.


69 posted on 05/13/2008 3:36:03 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Pyro7480

A lot of researchers have been trying hard to ferret out the answer to that question . . . what is the involvement of the Vatican in the whole UFO/ET sphere.

No one has come up with anything convincing yet.

The most obvious results has been to confirm how immersed the Vatican is in knowing about the vast mysterious field.

There’s evidently some very high ranking sorts tasked with staying on top of developing events and staying in touch with the . . . powers that be . . . which are in charge of such technologies and contacts.

I don’t know the names of such folks. I’ve come across them but don’t carry them around in my head.

One might be able to search on

HTTP://WWW.ABOVETOPSECRET.COM

or

HTTP://THEBLACKVAULT.COM

and come up with something.

There was a researcher who had some sort of dual role—had some JESUIT [interestingly] connections—serious routine JESUIT connections which he often worked with somehow . . . AND somehow, one of those senior Jesuit connections and this researcher ended up collaborating on ferreting out some developing UFO/ET information in a particular case.

The researcher thereby incidentally learned how serious and significantly well informed the Vatican was on the whole topic . . . and how seriously the Vatican treated the topic.


70 posted on 05/13/2008 3:36:07 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Continental Soldier

Virtually all are bi-pedal; two armed; one headed etc.

I don’t recall any any that aren’t though there was some report of a large ship with a zoo on it that had many very strange critters on it.

They are evidently in cahoots with satan to set up the global government and divert as many of God’s favorite critters to hell as possible. Certainly to enslave as many on earth as long as they can get away with it.

Thankfully, Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation indicate that won’t be more than 7 years at most . . . though the birth pangs leading up to the 7 years may be quite troublesome.

They have evidently convinced the ruling oligarchy setting up the global government that satan will win at Armageddon though satan himself knows better.


71 posted on 05/13/2008 3:36:08 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
BEING SET-UP for the introductions of ET influences?

These are strange times we live in. Obama who has shown a dislike for the American flag and christianity could be the next president and now the Vatican saying believing in UFO's is OK. America is being over run by illegal aliens, the politicians want open borders and Russia and Saudis are gaining control of the world through oil.

72 posted on 05/13/2008 4:14:41 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: BlueStateBlues

She could be the fifth Cylon, and Cylons are machines, not aliens. Although why a machine would waste its time with the Evil Elf... Well, perhaps she’s using Vista as her operating system.


73 posted on 05/13/2008 4:17:45 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Liberalism: a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.)
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To: dragonblustar

INDEED.

And, I think this strangeness is just a hint of what is ahead.


74 posted on 05/13/2008 4:21:49 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: dragonblustar

I don’t see what the big deal is here.The Vatican has never said not to believe.How could they.They don’t know what’s out there.


75 posted on 05/13/2008 4:22:44 PM PDT by fatima (Pray.for Jim,founder of this forum.)
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To: BenLurkin
Agreed. In fact there no reason to think that any "alien"(if there really is such a thing) would be anything other than hostile.

Why/How do you arrive at that conclusion? Or, have you already answered that downstream?

76 posted on 05/13/2008 4:23:06 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: sailor4321

Alas, it’s the traitorous treasonous socialists, communists, globalists who have a death grip on all the UFO technologies and the contacts with said evil creatures in cahoots with satan . . . no real surprise in that.

Thankfully, God is still in control.

And working all things to His purposes and will.


77 posted on 05/13/2008 4:25:50 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: fatima

They KNOW a

LOT

more than they are broadly, publically disclosing.


78 posted on 05/13/2008 4:25:50 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

To be honest Quix I don’t have a clue what they know.For a statement to be made like this is to me a hint.Maybe not-just guessing.


79 posted on 05/13/2008 4:30:30 PM PDT by fatima (Pray.for Jim,founder of this forum.)
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To: fatima

I think the big part of this is that an organization is giving the green light to the possibility of aliens.


80 posted on 05/13/2008 4:33:32 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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