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India to test 5,000-km range, Agni-IV IRBM at year-end
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| 12 May, 2008
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Posted on 05/12/2008 7:40:19 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick
New Delhi: With a second successful test of the 3,500 km intermediate range ballistic missile (IRBM), Agni-III, already in the bag, Indian defence scientists are planning to test a long range 5,000 km, IRBM by the end of the year.
According to Aviansh Chander, project director, the planning process for the test launch of the Agni-IV was in the final stages, now that the Agni-III had reached the stage of operationalisation. He indicated Monday that test flights could be scheduled for the end of the year, once government clearance was received.
According to Chander, an intercontinental range of 5,000-km would be achieved by strapping a solid fuel propellant-powered, third stage booster rocket on an Agni-III missile.
The second test of the Agni-III essentially tested the system's repeatability and reliability without any major technological additions as compared to the test carried out in April last year.
Apart from the longer range Agni series missiles, India will also test its ''special naval missile,'' an euphemism used by DRDO scientists for a submarine launched ballistic missile (SLBM), as well as conduct a second test of an 'interceptor' missile. These tests are likely to be undertaken in the September-October period.
According to M Natarajan, director general, Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), his scientists were "heavily engaged" in the special naval missile project. He, however, refused to be drawn out on when India's first nuclear submarine would roll out. "The Advance Technology Vehicle, as the nuclear submarine project is known, is not my project," Natarajan told reporters, when queried if the probable 2009 launch schedule for the submarine would be adhered to.
Agni-IV Last year December, VK Saraswat, chief controller, R&D (missiles and strategic systems), DRDO, had said that the organisation had begun work on Agni-IV, a 5,000 km range missile, to provide ''enough capability'' for a credible deterrence to the country. ''Work on the 5,000 km range missile is on and the first trial is expected to take place in early 2009,'' he said.
According to Saraswat, the Agni-IV, would have many new features, including anti-ballistic counter measures and rocket motor systems with composite materials to improve the thrust-to-weight ratio. It would also be equipped with stealth technology and be more accurate than missiles of a similar class, providing improved mobility and higher energy.
Sarawat had said then that the Agni-IV would not be an inter-continental ballistic missile, but a long range one. According to Saraswat, the Agni-III and IV were the building blocks for missiles with an intercontinental reach.
According to defence scientists, all major technologies for long range missiles have been realised with the two successful tests of the Agni-III missiles. The first successful test took place in April last year.
These technologies include high-power booster, multi-stage vehicles, re-entry technologies, which would allow aero-thermal loads to be sustained at very high Mach numbers along with a potent navigation system to maintain accuracy throughout the flight path.
According to Dr Saraswat, missiles in the range of 2,000-5,000 km would provide India ''enough capability'' to field a ''credible deterrence.''
He also said that depending on existing or emerging threats the need may arise for a 10,000 km range missile in the future. These are generally referred to as the 'Surya' class of missiles and will constitute India's inter-continental ballistic missile capability.
According to Dr Saraswat, India was also developing a ''long endurance,'' long range cruise missile that will fly at high subsonic speeds. Subsonic cruise missiles enable delivery of payloads at low cost and are generally difficult to detect because of their ability to fly at low altitudes.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agni; china; india; missile
1. Is India developing an ICBM?
2. (if yes) The PSLV can/can't just be tipped with nukes and used as first strike weapon.
3. consequences of developing an ICBM.
Here's my take on it.
Do we need an ICBM?
We don't need an ICBM. Not even for 'prestige' or boy toys - if you will.
An ICBM does not serve any of our security needs - in fact can add to more expense if developed in the next decade, secretly.
Our security needs can be more than adequately met by IRBM Agni-3, albeit with a slightly increased range.
Unlike other countries, all our adversaries are our neighbours - fortunately or unfortunately. Why would need an ICBM for that?
Are we developing an ICBM?
I would say no - and I'm not part of the defence establishment, so its an educated guess. Here's why:
Our current/near-term primary goal is to build a nuclear triad - and we miss a land-based missile capable of hitting all of China (the Agni-3 when produced should be able to do that), we miss an SLBM, and we miss an SLCM/Land based cruise (medium/long range) missile. And we don't have a SSBN or SSN yet - some of them are ongoing projects sucking enough money from the defence budget, why divert money into an ICBM?
An ICBM development would also serve to create a hostile relationship with both Russia and USA, after all who would we want to target an ICBM with? Timbuctoo? So an ICBM we develop would antagonise both our major weapon supplier and the world's sole superpower/our major trade partner. What do we gain? A PSLV with attitude?
Like Moscow's missile defence, it may even lead to our cities being targeted by either/both of those countries - depending on whether we use our own or their tech. I know our politicians are stupid, but not THAT stupid.
Strategic reasons maybe?
Unless India ties up into a NATO-like stance against say, Russia, or against the USA - both about as possible as China letting use Dong Fengs - what would the strategic reason be, for fielding an ICBM - in the absence of a cold war?
An argument could be made that an ICBM could be built for the same reasons the Agni-1 was - speed and ease of usage. But that's patently ridiculous. The Agni-1 is a specific second-strike weapon against Pakistan, even though its range might extend to parts of China.
The Agni's are all solid-fueled, and hence can be fired within minutes. So "replacing" them with a solid-fueled behemoth missile for speed doesn't make sense - more so when reliability might be compromised. The TOPOL-M has made a case for making existing missiles very fast, indeed. Making similar improvements to the Agni is more than adequate.
To: CarrotAndStick
I wonder if we will sell an anti-ICBM to the Pakistanis?
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posted on
05/12/2008 7:43:39 AM PDT
by
stuartcr
(Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
To: CarrotAndStick
“we miss a land-based missile capable of hitting all of China”
That’s the key.
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posted on
05/12/2008 7:43:40 AM PDT
by
indcons
(Please add the sarcasm tag, where appropriate)
To: CarrotAndStick
Women scientists involved in strategic weapons programme
PTI
New Delhi (PTI): As the world celebrates Mother's Day day, a little known fact has emerged that women scientists are propelling India's strategic weapons programme including long range missile.
According to official figures there were almost up to 200 women scientists involved in India's key weapon programmes like missiles, tanks, naval systems and even light combat aircrafts (LCAs).
And now Dr Tessy Thomas would be the first woman scientist in the country to become Project Director for developing upgraded versions of the 2,000 kilometre range nuclear capable surface to surface Agni-II missile.
Thomas is presently the Associate Project Director of the 3,000 kilometre range Agni-III missile project.
She refused to say on what version the Agni-III was planned.
"It is still a confidential project. It will be called Agni-III A (2)," that was all she said.
"I like my job. I feel I am contributing to my nation's security," Thomas told PTI.
The woman scientist is here to be honoured on Monday on Defence Research Development Organisation's (DRDO) technology day programme which would be presided over by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.
A B Tech from Thrissur Engineering College, Calicut, and M Tech from Pune, Thomas joined the DRDO after passing out from the college and said that there were 20 other women scientists working along with her in the Agni-III programme.
There are seven women scientists working on top key posts in this programme.
Thomas, an expert on all solid system propellant did the post analysis of the failure of the first Agni-III missile. She said there were some shortcoming in the test of the missile. But these have been overcome to have a smooth flawless test fly.
So dedicated is Thomas to her work and her job with the DRDO that she has named her son, who is currently doing engineering, 'Tejas'.
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posted on
05/12/2008 7:44:01 AM PDT
by
CarrotAndStick
(The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
To: CarrotAndStick
Tessy Thomas looks Indian, Thomas is not an Indian name. So what does her husband do in India?
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posted on
05/12/2008 7:53:38 AM PDT
by
redstateconfidential
(If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
To: CarrotAndStick
I am all for as many Rice burners that can be aimed at the scourge of the earth, China the monolith of War.
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posted on
05/12/2008 7:54:42 AM PDT
by
redstateconfidential
(If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
To: redstateconfidential
Tessy Thomas is Indian. She’s a Christian from the state of Kerala, in south India.
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posted on
05/12/2008 7:56:11 AM PDT
by
CarrotAndStick
(The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
To: CarrotAndStick
India tests ballistic missile capable of reaching China
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jczYbReIOoyEv6RTvj4ByWMFJT7A
BHUBANESWAR, India (AFP) India successfully tested a nuclear-capable missile Wednesday that can hit targets deep inside China, joining the ranks of nations possessing intermediate-range missile capacity, the defence ministry said.
It marked the third test of the Agni-III missile -- India's longest-range ballistic missile -- and was staged "to establish the repeatability of the missile's performance," defence ministry spokesman Sitanshu Kar told AFP.
The missile was fired from a mobile launcher Wednesday morning at a testing site on Wheeler Island off the coast of the eastern state of Orissa.
Kar said the launch "propelled India into a select group of countries with intermediate-range ballistic missile capabilities and added yet another dimension to national deterrence."
The missile, which has a 3,000-kilometre (1,860-mile) range, can carry conventional or nuclear payloads of 1.5 tonnes, and puts China's major cities such as Shanghai within striking distance, defence analysts say.
The surface-to-surface projectile reached its designated target in 13 minutes and 20 seconds "travelling through a peak height of 350 kilometres with a velocity of more than 4,000 metres per second," said Kar.
The Agni-III -- Agni means fire in Sanskrit -- was first tested in 2006.
But that first trial of the 1.8 metre-diameter (six-foot) missile was a flop when it rose 12 kilometres before crashing into the Bay of Bengal.
The failure was blamed on a snag with its strapped-on solid fuel booster rocket. India successfully tested the missile in April 2007.
In Wednesday's test, 180 kilometres northeast of Orissa's state capital Bhubaneswar, "all the sub-systems of the missile functioned in a copybook manner, giving an outstanding integrated performance of the missile in terms of range and accuracy," Kar said.
The missile is one of a series developed as part of India's deterrence strategy against neighbouring China and Pakistan which also have nuclear weapons, analysts say.
India has shorter-range missiles that analysts say were developed to target long-time rival Pakistan with which it has fought three wars since independence from Britain in 1947.
The two neighbours who launched a slow-moving peace process in 2004 aimed at resolving outstanding disputes including over disputed Kashmir often stage tit-for-tat missile tests.
But the development of the Agni III is aimed at displaying that India's deterrent reach can stretch far beyond Pakistan, analysts say.
In the last few years, however, tensions between India and China, which fought a brief border war in 1962, have eased and there is now direct trade through the Himalayas.
The Agni-III is the country's first solid fuel missile that is compact enough for easy mobility.
India's indigenously developed missile arsenal also includes the short-range Prithvi ballistic missile and the medium-range Akash.
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posted on
05/12/2008 7:58:09 AM PDT
by
CarrotAndStick
(The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
To: CarrotAndStick
India has no choice but to do what it is doing. We have funded China into a military build-up frenzy. China’s neighbors have had to take a look at what is going on, and prepare for a confrontation.
We have conducted the worst trade/military blunder in human history with China. We have not only created a situation that will be almost impossible for us to deal with, but we have destabalized the entire world in the process.
This is one situation where I hope God is not all that merciful, when the dregs of society that fostered and supported this policy go before Him.
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posted on
05/12/2008 8:53:19 AM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
To: CarrotAndStick
India is fast becoming an ace in the hole, as it relates to China. I would urge it to hurry.
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posted on
05/12/2008 8:55:25 AM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
To: redstateconfidential
Christianity in India is almost as old as Christianity, St. Thomas having reached India via the Spice Route by the sea. In fact we have almost all the major religions in the world here except for a few sects, contributing to our heritage already enriched by Hindu sages through the ages.
To: SOAPOPERA
So no one has answered my question, why is the lady scientists last name Thomas, that is not a name you normally come across in India.
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posted on
05/13/2008 8:13:44 PM PDT
by
redstateconfidential
(If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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