Posted on 05/12/2008 6:09:59 AM PDT by reaganaut1
Thadd McNamara was at the helm of his motor home on a cross-country trip in 2005 when his cellphone rang and a neighbor gave him the news: His grown son, Sean, was in trouble with law -- again.
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It turned out Sean McNamara was accused of burglarizing his father's home and attempting to make off with a baseball cap bearing the logo "Snap-On Tools."
It was classic Sean, his father would later say. Nothing serious. Just another knuckle-head move from an overgrown kid who drank too much beer, didn't pay his bills and, essentially, refused to grow up. Thadd even had a phrase from his Catholic school Latin that he used to describe Sean -- puer eternus -- or eternal boy.
This time, McNamara decided, he wasn't going to bail out his son.
He pressed charges, banking on a prosecutor's assurance that Sean would be ordered to undergo alcohol counseling as a condition of his probation, if he was convicted.
"You don't want to see your kid in jail," McNamara said in a recent interview. "But I felt that him being put in rehab was going to be good for him."
But Sean never made it to rehab.
He was nearly beaten to death in a Los Angeles County jail after being placed in dorms with about 200 fellow inmates, many of them violent members of the Southsiders gang. McNamara was attacked when the guard who was supposed to be watching them left his post.
The attack, in which inmates allegedly jumped from third-tier bunks onto his head as he lay on the floor, left him with permanent brain damage.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
The state uses rape as tool for control. The AG of California gave this away when he gleefully stated that he wanted to put the CEO of Enron in jail where he would be raped. The fact that the AG not only wasn’t repromanded, but was actually allowed to keep his job proved that the state endorced his statement.
bingo.... He probably mouthed off to the guard or hadn't been in jail before and thought it was like TV. So he might have posed as a hard case or might even have been drunk at the time.... very bad to be incarcerated, limited physical capacity due to drugs or beer and white.
As it was explained to me once a long time ago by somebody as he was pointing to a white dude, " he's the (insert ethnic slur) when he goes to lock up. We're in charge there."
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. --
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
The rules in effect that are outside the laws on the books have been put in place by the process of protecting criminals. No law is challenged by law-abiding people; laws are challenged, tweaked, reworded, and changed by criminals and their attorneys and a judicial system that tends to legislate as opposed to interpret.
No it wasn't his home at all. The boy was 41 y/o and was explicitly told to stay away. He refused to do so and was caught by the cops after having kicked the door in.
Your point is expressed in my post of Deuteronomy 21:18.
When a family tries to chastise and correct their son, to no avail because the kid is a serious mental case / sociopath, it’s best to take him to the “elders” and let them deal with him - if our society would still allow that.
The elders can decide if the kid is a serious threat to society and take him out of it if necessary. It’s a lot more compassionate than letting him harm others.
Well, it’s terrible and while people should be punished for their crimes they should not be put someplace so violent and horrible where others can take lives or maime someone like this young man.
I do not advocate treating criminals with kid gloves. They SHOULD be punished for their crimes and either be executed or spend the rest of their lives away from society. However, I am just thinking there has to be a better way.
Did you even bother to read the full article? If you did then you would know the exact reason why he was targeted.
Well, that should hold true for ALL CHILDREN and not just those who are upper class. If this is done early it might just save some young people. It’s all very sad and horrible.
This is not even human anymore. I wish someone in power could move ahead and make these changes. Some people go to jail do their time and come out with lessons learned. They should not be attacked while serving out their sentences. It’s just not right to me. I don’t care if you are rich, poor, or what nationality someone is. You should be able to serve your time and released when and if the time comes. I think our jail system is just awful and I would hope it could change. Can you imagine someone going into jail for the first time in their life sorry for their crime and doing their time and then something like this happens. I don’t know...it jsut boggles my mind.
The reason given is BS and was made up by the cons. Do you suppose the disturbance the guard had to tend to elsewhere was also the result of the cons beating on a suspected child molester. This sort of thing happens in and out of jail and they pull the reasons out of thin air.
But the BODY -- the BODY -- remembers the whip. Very very few can ignore their own body's remembrance of a sound whipping in order to commit the same crime.
“but I think the dad went overboard if all that was taken was a baseball cap.”
There comes a time, when dealing with alcohol/drug-addicted children, that the “straw-that-broke-the-camel’s-back” comes into play. Apparently, the “straw” this time was the baseball cap.
I had to do much the same with my son although no jail time was involved because he had not been charged with a crime. I just had to say, “enough-is-enough” and I had to cut him off, completely. The con-jobs, lying, cheating, stealing and the selling off of necessary items to buy more alcohol/drugs, over time, do take their toll on one’s patience.
I have to assume that you are a relatively young doctor and/or have not been exposed to alcohol/drug-addicted patients or you might understand this.
“Well we live in a police state right now”
Big Brother thinks that we are all guilty of something and would like all of us to be in jail except Big Brother and family members.
I'm older, and although my father was an alcoholic, I fortunately have not had much exposure to drug addiction.
I do have a son who won't grow up, and I have taken the ‘tough love’ steps of cutting him off to force maturity, so I don't have any problem with that.
But to have him arrested over a ball cap? Just seems like there are other ‘tough love’ things you could do. Unless, again, there is more to the story.
I would think it was very plausible that he was targeted for it if someone decided to pass the word. The beating he took was rather savage.
The elders can decide if the kid is a serious threat to society and take him out of it if necessary. It’s a lot more compassionate than letting him harm others.
There is a great book called The Earth Abides, that copes with that very issue. It is one of the short list of books all my children MUST read before their sophmore year of high school.
Well, that should hold true for ALL CHILDREN and not just those who are upper class. If this is done early it might just save some young people. It’s all very sad and horrible.
Things are unfair.
They should all be run like military prisons. Think of Basic Training, strict military discipline. Cell spotless, bed perfectly made, grooming to standards, no speaking unless spoken to, "Yes, Seargeant" "No, Seargeant", stand at parade rest, keep proper distance. A guard can take any violation of the latter rules as a threat and respond with force.
It must have been a very special baseball cap.
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