Posted on 05/11/2008 8:58:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
You'll want to right click view
on a few of these... *
John McCain's Road the the White House
In his natural habitat...
Liberalism's Heritage Preserve. *
John's ten Maverick years.
Has anyone forgotten them? *
The Republican Primaries 2008. *
Cabin boy McQueeg to lead...
Conservatism's darkest hour. *
Oh my God, I did that?
Anyone got a barf bag?
Pale white, this year's new green. *
Just so you know, John is willing to sacrifice himself...
for the good of the nation. *
In answer to your question John, zero votes. Nice try though. *
Springtime in D.C.
Just reaching out...
Just reaching out... *
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Just reaching out...
Just reaching out...
Just reaching out, the Keating 5 fiasco...
Always in good company, John McCain with Demcrats or die hard liberals... it's been the pattern.
Well, no full accounting for our men MIA, but least we have normalized relations with Vietnam... * *
July 11, 1995, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., (right), and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., (center),
gave President Bill Clinton, (left), the valuable political cover he needed to remove the U.S.
imposed trade embargo against communist Vietnam. All major U.S. veterans organizations,
the two POW/MIA family groups, and the majority of Vietnamese Americans in this country
opposed Clinton's lifting of the embargo.
Didn't their service, POW status, torture and devotion to duty deserve as much respect as John's? Evidently not.
We still don't have a full accounting for men a number of whom were seen alive by other POWs after shoot down or incarceration.
No3 * * *
They found out about George Soros' funding
for the push for the McCain/Feingold Bill too?
McCain Feingold, reaching out, striking down... * *
Three boobs... * Will they recognize my policies with these on? *
For player 1, it was Kryptonite...
For player 2, it was garlic...
For player 3, it was a cross...
For player 4, it was Conservatism *
The exciting new game...
DonkeyCain! *
SCOTUS Justices Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter
Just a few confirmation votes, no big deal. *color="#006600"> * *
Geneva Convention status...
Closing Gitmo...
An end to water boarding...
Access to our courts... * *
More of John's actions of behalf of...
his constituents?
Still more of John's Peeps... *
Cosponser of McCain/Kennedy
helps set up roadblock...
to Conservatism. *
Eh, John, they'll never see it comin',
I tell ya. Yeah Ted, look at those
xenophobes. Screw them! *
"I support illegal immigrants being granted citizenship, and being processed right along with those who went through the process legally..." * * *
Three Gorebalist Worming Tweedie Birds
and a hungry Conservative cat. *
Yeah John, we've got your number
on this one too.
The Humane Society was not present
at the development of this photo grouping...
and we cant' vouch for the safety of the cat.
Point / Counterpoint *
Looks like some are going to buy off on the
Clinton/Obama scare tactics Mini-Me, er...
Mavrick.
Right John, some ideas just stink? *
But we didn't want Clinton or Obama to destroy the nation...
How were we supposed to know?
You could have listened! *
It isn't the first time we were wrong,
but I never thought they could put
that much lipstick on this guy.
A new reality TV series coming to your home this fall. *
When Johnny's Conservative vote comes marching home.
No matter how you dress it...
it's still not going to appeal to Conservatives.
Danger3
Yes, and it gives me no joy at all to reject a man like McCain, whose war record is matched by few living men.
Still, being better than Obama won’t make him a good President. He’ll just be better than the worst.
And even that is arguable. There are freepers who have made a good case against him because, as a Republican, he won’t have much opposition to his agenda from either party; whereas at least with a Dem president we’d have some Republicans in the legislature trying to turn back the destructive forces.
McCain is fairly plain-spoken. We know what he’ll do about illegal immigrants. We know where he stands on the First Amendment vs. McCain-Feingold. We won’t be able to say we were not warned. We won’t be able to say “McCain betrayed us.”
He is what he is, and an honored war hero he will ever be, but presidential timber he is not.
Folks on my ignore list — you’ve just been added, but only because you requested it, not because you otherwise quite qualify — are there because they are abusive, not because I disagree with them! Get over yourself. More vanity.
And you still haven’t answered the question. You say McCain isn’t so hot at supporting troops, citing POW/MIA issues and Gitmo. But again, the choice is between him and HillObama, and he’s obviously much better (less bad), a fact you ignore.
For the 4th time, you cite his vote to confirm Ginsberg. But confirming isn’t nominating. You seem to conflate the role of a Senator, in that process, with that of the President. While I’m sure I’d be disappointed with McCain’s picks of O’Connors instead of Robertses, I would — as I’ve said three times now with no *on-point* response from you — be far more disappointed with HillObama’s picks of young Ginsbergs. If you think begrudgingly voting to confirm is terribly indicative of whom he’d nominate, you’re living on another planet.
Added, per your request (not for abuse). Enjoy the, uh, honor. You obviously enjoy yourself a great deal! Your inevitable reply will be ignored.
I agree with your thoughts here. I would say though, that parts of John’s military record are good, and parts are not so good. A lot of my respect for John’s military record was destroyed by his actions related to the MIA issue and trade with Vietnam. John was a POW. I would expect such a man to go to the ends of the universe on behalf of other POWs or MIA men, and that didn’t happen.
Addendum: My bad! Turns out you were already on the list! I’ve been wasting valuable time for nothing, darn it. I really gotta look at my list more often, as this forum lacks a software-blacklist. Cheers!
What importance do you believe the 2008 Republican Platform will play in this Presidential election? What if anything can the McCain opposition do to influence it?
McCains people should dominate the convention. He has vastly superior numbers. Im not sure how anyone could change the platform without his approval. If someone disagrees with this, Id be happy to hear it, and an explanation along the lines of what you asked for.
You took the easy path, huh?
IMHO, you've already given up. To my mind, if I believed as you and your friends believe, faced with the political facts, I'd be wondering how to work the system to get the best respresentation possible.
These McCainophobac threads mostly serve as a vent for so-called True Conservative frustration and disallusionment . . . and a sardonic giggle.
>If the generation of 50/60 years ago were to be surveyed ...<
Last December I was going over some old records of investments. Way back when, I bought some AT&T when they controlled the telephone/fax communication system almost border to border and coast to coast. I found old records where I had owned some Pacific Bell/Nevada Bell. I have also invested in Southern Bell Corp. Just a couple of years ago I see that once again I am have invested in AT&T. Forty years and I’m back where I started, same company, same business with roughly the same returns.
I can’t help but wonder if this wasn’t planned by someone. Build a company and when the new ideas slow to a mere grind, make a law that such companies control too much of the industry and break them up. In comes a rush of new ideas but these people are thinking of today not next year. So let these folks get their new ideas planted and operating then bring back the long term operating engineers and once again give them the control stick.
I have seen the same thing take place with retail drug and food stores in city after city, state after state but on a shorter timespan. I don’t think that it was sheer luck that China chose WalMart to become its unnamed international representative. No somebody in China with an MBA from Yale did some serious scanning of various retail busnesses to determine who was most efficient at selling items in certain price ranges and at a specfic quality range. WalMart won the grand suprise gift without even knowing they had been invited to the party.
Franklin D. Roosevelt said something about, “If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.” I used to think he was referring to political events but now I recognize that he meant everything that man has anything to do with.
When I realize how easily the ‘rulers’ control the entire world population it makes sense. Most people can’t bear the weight nor do they want to be reliant upon themselves for everything that happens in their daily life. That is too much responsibility for them so they bend to the wishes of ‘political rulers’. There is very few who don’t fit this mold. The mountain men of days gone past were the last truly free men of this country, living where they wanted to in the wilderness. I don’t think very many people, these days, could live for a single year without the assistance of electricity. Maybe 5% of the entire country might make it for 12 months. I know I couldn’t, too worn down physically and just too dang old now.
Now we have one corporation owning 40 other companies. Directing the complete path of existence to all their employess and their families. Remarkable that there hasn’t been another Tea Party.
You took the easy path, huh?
I merely provided my point of view on the subject.
Yes.
You did.
Thank you.
I merely thought that someone who exercised such interest and applied so much of their personal time in searching out and posting all those wonderful graphics might have previously prepared for the upcoming contest at the Republican Convention . . . and must certainly know something about inserting themselves and their values into the contest.
Thanks for more interesting food for thought there. Those perspective on the man made plans for business, as well as politics are interesting.
I liked the comments about dependence and don’t disagree. That comment about another revolution was something I think about from time to time also.
What we have going on today isn’t what our forefathers had in mind IMO. It would be interesting to see how they would deal with some of what we face wouldn’t it.
...yet.
Perhaps it’s the wrong attitude to take, but I can’t imagine having to deal with the supporters of John McCain at the convention. That would be a true nightmare for me. I wouldn’t have the numbers to prevail. It would be shere torture to have to watch them do things I would disagree with stridently.
I can understand why you wanted to know what I thought we could do. I just wish I knew at this point.
Which forefathers?
It would be interesting to see how they would deal with some of what we face wouldnt it.
Are you now switching to American economic history or staying with contemporary politics?
Why did you launch this thread? Why did you spend so much time preparing the opening post with all those graphics you personally selected?
To get attention? Strokes? What's your payoff?
When asked about getting into the ring . . .
You simply say, "I cant imagine having to deal with the supporters of John McCain at the convention."
Yes. I understand.
Make of my comments what you will. They express what I wanted to say.
If you don’t know why, then you need to go back to the beginning of the thread and pay attention as you read it again.
If you don’t know by now, then my explanation isn’t going to enlighten you.
Thank you.
Appreciate your willingness to respond without responding.
Best,
R.
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