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[Team Hillary] "Nothing's Over Until We Decide It Is!"
A Chequer-Board of Nights & Days ^ | May 10, 2008 | Pejman Yousefzadeh

Posted on 05/11/2008 12:14:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Refusing to go gently into that good night, Clinton supporter Jerome Armstrong stubbornly sticks to the message that Hillary Clinton can win the Democratic Presidential nomination. He points to West Virginia as a state that serves as a good indicator of what Armstrong believes to be Barack Obama's general election problems. Sensitive to charges that fretting about Obama's general election appeal in West Virginia could be tantamount to giving credence to the views of racists, Armstrong spends a goodly amount of time denouncing anyone who would dismiss as racists anti-Obama voters in West Virginia.

This isn't particularly interesting save for two observations:

The Clinton folks actually believe that their candidate might yet pull off some sort of miracle and capture the nomination.

Despite all of the talk that Obama's nomination is now inevitable and that with said inevitability will come newfound party unity, seething anger and resentment continues to define the mood of Clinton supporters. This is, perhaps, somewhat understandable; at the beginning of the nomination contest, I don't imagine that people like Armstrong really ever thought that Obama would be able to wrest the nomination away from Clinton when they consulted the stars. Nevertheless, one would have thought that the various pro-Clinton factions in the netroots would have begun to reconcile themselves to an Obama nomination and then line up to support him against John McCain and the Republicans.

Well, perhaps eventually, they will. But for now, there remains seething anger and resentment and since it is almost the middle of May already, one could easily see the resentment continuing through the summer--especially if Hillary Clinton decides to push through the rest of the primary schedule and goes to the Democratic National Convention without having fallen on her sword. Ted Kennedy kept on fighting up to and during the convention in New York in 1980 even though he had significantly less support then than Clinton does and will have during this electoral contest. I am sure that this information will not be lost on the Clintons, I would not be surprised if they continued to play every trick in the book--and some that may not be in the book--to try to win the nomination at the last moment during a knife fight in Denver and while I have not recently checked the stock prices for popcorn companies, I don't imagine that they have gone down all that much.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; elections; hillary; obama
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need Hellary to fight to the bitter end and annoy the RAT party so much that she has no chance at the nomination in 2012 or 2016. Also to drive her personal finances into bancrupcy.


21 posted on 05/11/2008 5:19:12 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: cubreporter
Gore wouldn't go quietly either...like some villian in a bad horror movie who won't die!
22 posted on 05/11/2008 5:38:05 AM PDT by NewCenturions (I've got a posthumous crush on Dave Guard)
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To: NewCenturions

oops...villian=villain


23 posted on 05/11/2008 5:39:24 AM PDT by NewCenturions (I've got a posthumous crush on Dave Guard)
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To: Nipfan
GOOD FREAKING GRIEF, people!!!! The Clintons are a MACHINE....A VIRUS.....VILE and EVIL. The Obamas haven't got the mad dogs going into the White House with them except for a FEW around them.....the Clintons are surrounded by BAD people....they ONLY know BAD people who will do ANYTHING for the Clintons...ANYTHING!!

If the Clintons aren't dispatched NOW, Chelsea will be President in a few years also!!

Obama will get NOTHING done....Hillary will.

24 posted on 05/11/2008 5:40:29 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Would anyone be surprised if Obamma had an unfortunate accident within the next couple months? Or maybe without rational explanation, decided he didn’t want to be president after all? The Clinton Machine is just getting started...


25 posted on 05/11/2008 5:44:03 AM PDT by Wildbill22
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Did you see this post from yesterday? It's heavy on profanity, but if you can get past that (don't let the kids near!) it's hilarious.

Again, the profanity is TERRIBLE...But it's in text form, not something that will come out over the speakers.

Hillary's Downfall (YouTube -- Hilarious)

Hillary in the bunker BUMP!

Cheers!

26 posted on 05/11/2008 5:58:36 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Cowboy Bob
If Hillary can beat Obama in Oregon, what will the Democrats do?

Currently Obama leads Hillary in pledged delegates 1592 to 1424. Hillary leads in pledged superdelegates 273 to 272, which means that Obama has 167 delegate lead. He needs 161 delegates to reach 2025, the magic number for the nomination.

There are 6 primaries left with a total of 217 pledged delegates at stake and there are 251 uncommitted super delegates. Assuming that Obama and Hillary split the remaining pledged delegates [108 for Obama], Obama would need 59 out of the remaining 251 super delegates to get the nomination.

Even assuming that Hillary gets 60% of the remaining pledge delegates, an unlikely possibility since Hillary has surpassed 60% of the vote in only one state, Arkansas, that would give her 130 delegates to Obama's 87. Hillary would then have a total of 1,827 delegates to Obama's 1,951. Hillary would need to win 198 of the remaining 251 uncommitted super delegates or 79%. In contrast, even under the scenario of Hillary winning 60% of the remaining pledged delegates, Obama would need 74 of the uncommitted 251 superdelegates or 29%.

Stick a fork in her, Hillary is done.

27 posted on 05/11/2008 6:02:29 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Rastus
I’d rather see her in the White House than Obama.

Hillary tells a lot of lies but she did state at least one truth. "He can't win Bill. He just can't win."

The dems have put themselves in a position where she can't win the nomination and he can't win the election.

28 posted on 05/11/2008 7:01:39 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: B-Chan

8 years in the White House DOWN THE DRAIN!


29 posted on 05/11/2008 7:26:59 AM PDT by jaz.357 ("I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

CLASSIc JOHN BELUSHI. “It ain’t over until we decide it’s over.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpSFExhRdBA&NR=1


30 posted on 05/11/2008 7:44:29 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: NewCenturions

Gore wouldn’t go quietly either...like some villian in a bad horror movie who won’t die!

Ha,ha,ha...and...we see where all of that got HIM! Well, maybe hillllereee can follow in his footsteps and create a “Global Cooling” scam too.


31 posted on 05/11/2008 9:36:38 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“nothing’s over until we decide it is!”

jawohl and heil hillary!!!


32 posted on 05/11/2008 12:17:13 PM PDT by ripley
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To: B-Chan

Good work, very creative!

Maybe add line like “Get Carville to do it, he’s a sneaky little ——”


33 posted on 05/11/2008 12:21:09 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: B-Chan

“Road trip!”

“Do you mind if we dance wif your dates?”


34 posted on 05/11/2008 12:36:09 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: ripley

OBamBam doesn’t have a chance.

Mark my words....


35 posted on 05/11/2008 4:38:12 PM PDT by Wildbill22
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To: Wildbill22

“obambam doesn’t have a chance.”

they say hillary has more than a thirty-point lead over obama in west virginia and one or two other states. (forgot which ones)


36 posted on 05/11/2008 7:44:45 PM PDT by ripley
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To: Ann Archy
Amen to your post!

The Clintons need to be retired for good!

37 posted on 05/11/2008 10:24:11 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Wildbill22
Would anyone be surprised if Obamma had an unfortunate accident within the next couple months? Or maybe without rational explanation, decided he didn’t want to be president after all? The Clinton Machine is just getting started...

Who wouldn't smell a rat then?

The Clintons cannot win without the Black vote and they would not accept Hillary replacing Obama under 'mysterious' circumstances.

38 posted on 05/11/2008 10:25:47 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: kabar
Agreed.

The argument that Hillary is making to the Super-Delegates is that she is the best candidate, not that Obama cannot win.

The Super-delegates were only set in place to make sure someone did not get nominated who clearly could not win the General election.

Hillary has admitted that Obama could win the General herself.

Being the 'better' candidate is not going to be the basis of overturning the popular will of the Democratic primary voters.

39 posted on 05/11/2008 10:28:55 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: ripley
Yes, she will win W.Vir and Ken. big, but lose in Oregon and Wyo. and that is all Obama needs to wrap it up.

The Super-delegates are moving to him slowly but surely.

Much will be made about the size of Hillary's win in W.Vir but it is irrelevant.

40 posted on 05/11/2008 10:31:43 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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