McCain Apparently Calculates He Can Win Without Conservatives

May 11, 2008 | pinochet

[norton]

"If elected Clinton or Obama would not be the head of the Conservative movement. If elected, John McCain would be ."

I think even McCain would refute that statement. He would nod to 'the conservative movement' but he'd never claim it.
Once elected, he'll drop any pretense.

[DoughtyOne]

I appreciate the frankness. Even if you disagree overall, I appreciate folks who will acknowledge the problems that are presented.

[Revolting cat!]

It don’t matter, the RAT will win, on gasoline prices alone!

[norge]

There is no question in my mind, as a conservative, I’m voting for McCain, hands down.

What in the world are all you “righteous” conservative, including you, James Dobson, thinking.

A pro-life Senator, with an 82 per cent record voting for conservative values beats Hillary or Obama, any day, any week, any month, any year...decade, century or whatever.

What in the world could you people, including you Rush, Coulter, the whole bunch of you be thinking????

As I have said before,McCain isn’t my first, second, third, or even my fifth choice...but he is getting my vote.

[HankArcher]

Benedict Arnold was once wounded fighting FOR America

No one remembers him for that. Same with McAmnesty.

[null and void]

We can’t let the wrong lizard win, can we?

[socialismisinsidious]

‘Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard,’ said Ford, ‘the wrong lizard might get in.’

I'm fully aware of why I will (gag) vote for McCain. I am not voting for McCain but rather voting against Obama.

Great now I have to throw up again.

The time to stop voting for lizards is in the primaries. Got any gin?

[mass55th]

"For the time being, they are reulctantly supporting him..."

Not this Conservative.

[PugetSoundSoldier]

He’s already on record that he finds Alito “too conservative”.

That's an old lie... Please read the truth about it. A solitary MSM member CLAIMS that John McCain said "he thought Alito wore his conservatism non his sleeve" but in fact McCain supported - with testimony and vote - Alito, and has publicly stated he'd appoint judges like Alito and Roberts.

McCain has stated - correctly, if you're a Constitutionalist in the vein of Scalia - that a judge "could wear his politics too much on his sleeve" but that is an admirable goal, as the judical branch is SUPPOSED to be apolitical!

I suddenly hear that he’ll appoint more judges, as conservative or more conservative than Alito, I’d disregard it as pandering to get my vote, like John Kerry and Mitt Romney the hunters, or Bill Clinton and his Middle Class Tax Cut.

So in this case MSM slander works great on you - hearsay and innuendo will guide your choices, rather than facts and direct statement and actions. I see, strong principled stand there...

[Antoninus]

Well, I voted for Bush twice. McCain is arguably more conservative than Bush on several issues, most notably spending.

I'll vote for him and then spend the next four years yelling at him--just like I've done from 2004 through now.

[null and void]

Got any gin?

Sorry. My bistromatic is tied up trying to make tea.

It's a pity the founding dads never foresaw the need for a way to vote against a politician, we can only for his opponent.

[DoughtyOne]

If elected Clinton or Obama would not be the head of the Conservative movement. If elected, John McCain would be.

Who’s the head of the Conservative movenment now? It’s certainly not the President and I don’t see a reason to believe it will be the President when McCain gets elected.

Kris, if you want to quible over samantics, so be it.  The sad fact is that the President sets the agenda for his party.  And since the Repbulican party's agenda would be set by John McCain, you should be able to understand the implications for Conservatism.  Bush has set the agenda for Conservatism.  Even McCain himself has gotten almost universal approval of Republican leaders, even though his agenda is far from Conservative.  He is setting the agenda.

Did Republicans rise up and oppose Bush when it came to a Great Society program involving Medication and Medicare?  Did Republicans rise up and oppose Bush when he doubled the budged of a Department (Education) whose polices have been bitterly opposed by Conservatives?  Did Republicans rise up and disagree with Bush on the immigration issue?  Even that bill was nearly reintroduced until McCain opposed it due to his Presidential aspirations.  And it probably would have passed with more effort.  And what happens when McCain proposes it after elected?  You know as well as I do that enough Democrats and Republicans will join in to make sure it happens this time.

Does McCain lead out for Conservatism and oppose this measure?  No, in fact he will be introducing it.  The RNC and the majority of Congressional Republicans will sign on.  So will the Democrats.  And this is the model that will play out time and time again during a McCain Presidency.  McCain will be supported by 97 Senators and over 400 Congressmen on almost everything he proposes.  That's because a great deal of things he will propose, will be backed by the Democrats, as well as the compliant Republicans.

Look at this forum.  Has Bush been defended on issue after issue after leftist issue?  Of course he has.  And McCain is about to get the same Party over politics support.  We'll have to endure this for another four years.

[norge]

Well, great. You stand on principal and will acknowledge President Obama for the next 4 to 8 years.

Terrific!

[Lancey Howard]

McCain could end up simply rolling in campaign dough enthusiastically contributed by grassroots activist "moderates", "independents", and "Reagan Democrats".

That McCain is a genius.

[Hattie]

McCain can’t win without conservatives regardless of what he thinks.

[PugetSoundSoldier]

But see, he’s not pandering to the demogogues here at FreeRepublic, and they simply don’t like being stood up!

I mean, if we can’t get pandering and slavish devotion to every single statement ever made by any FReeper, then clearly the politician must be just left of Stalin, and an infinitely worse threat than avowed socialists like the Donks are running...

We can’t look at hard facts and data like the ACU ratings, heavens no! It’s all about the feelings. Feelings and pandering...

[MinorityRepublican]

I prefer McCain/Lieberman ticket. Strong on Foreign Policy!

[PugetSoundSoldier]

McCain is linked with Goerge Soros also. Soros funded one of McCain's pet projects. So did another leading socialist jackass whose name I can recall right now.

Leiberman supports the War On Terror. I assume you do too. Thus you are a socialist donk like Leiberman.

Feel good to tar with that big bad brush?

[PugetSoundSoldier]

Explain his 82% ACU lifetime rating, and his 82% 2007 ACU rating then, if he’s sold out the Republican party.

I mean, in your world an 82% ACU rating must be what comes right after the 7% and the 0% of Obama and Hillary...

[JoJo Gunn]

About the only “good” thing about McCain and this insane Election cycle is that it’s revealing the true character of so many signed up here.

Way too many never completely shed their Democrap skin.