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If elected Clinton or Obama would not be the head of the Conservative movement. If elected, John McCain would be.

Who’s the head of the Conservative movenment now? It’s certainly not the President and I don’t see a reason to believe it will be the President when McCain gets elected.

Kris, if you want to quible over samantics, so be it. The sad fact is that the President sets the agenda for his party. And since the Repbulican party's agenda would be set by John McCain, you should be able to understand the implications for Conservatism. Bush has set the agenda for Conservatism. Even McCain himself has gotten almost universal approval of Republican leaders, even though his agenda is far from Conservative. He is setting the agenda.

Did Republicans rise up and oppose Bush when it came to a Great Society program involving Medication and Medicare? Did Republicans rise up and oppose Bush when he doubled the budged of a Department (Education) whose polices have been bitterly opposed by Conservatives? Did Republicans rise up and disagree with Bush on the immigration issue? Even that bill was nearly reintroduced until McCain opposed it due to his Presidential aspirations. And it probably would have passed with more effort. And what happens when McCain proposes it after elected? You know as well as I do that enough Democrats and Republicans will join in to make sure it happens this time.

Does McCain lead out for Conservatism and oppose this measure? No, in fact he will be introducing it. The RNC and the majority of Congressional Republicans will sign on. So will the Democrats. And this is the model that will play out time and time again during a McCain Presidency. McCain will be supported by 97 Senators and over 400 Congressmen on almost everything he proposes. That's because a great deal of things he will propose, will be backed by the Democrats, as well as the compliant Republicans.

Look at this forum. Has Bush been defended on issue after issue after leftist issue? Of course he has. And McCain is about to get the same Party over politics support. We'll have to endure this for another four years.

"Look at this forum."

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It's a Conservative forum, not a Republican Party Forum. The Republican Party and the Conservative Movement are not the same thing. They traveled more or less the same road for a while but that does not mean they have to do so.