Posted on 05/09/2008 3:03:45 PM PDT by Armed Civilian
I have been to the outpouring in Lakeland twice with my family. I was wondering if any other Freepers have been as well. We went when it was still in Ignited Church which holds 700. It has moved to a church in Auburndale that holds 3,000, they then moved it to the Lakeland Convention Center that holds 9,000 and then to Lakeland Tigers Baseball stadium that holds nearly 12,000. Tonight it will be at Lakeland/Linder Airport, Sun and Fun Grounds. We have seen lots of healings and miracles. It has been going on for over 35 days and will be at the convention center for at least another 14 days.
www.freshfire.ca
God TV?
Yes it is only on direct tv here in the states, channel 365
I am not sure what it is carried on overseas. It is carried on Direct TV. I do not believe any cable companies have picked it up.
I’ve not been to Florida but had seen Todd Bentley in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania at Life Center about two years ago.
This site gives a very good overview of Todd Bentley’s ministry. Read with care and then make up your own mind. We have friends that think he’s great and others who believe he’s gone off the deep end.
TODD BENTLEY AND THE FLORIDA REVIVAL EXPOSED
http://www.cristianismobiblico.com/bentleyexposed.htm
I have relatives who’ve gotten caught up in a group called International House of Prayer.
http://www.puregospeltruth.com/healing-revival-lakeland-florida-todd-bentley.html
Videos showing the fruit and manifestions of this Revival.
I’m sorry to hear about your relatives. Many people are being deceived because they don’t know what God’s word says for themselves.
Every time a new move of God comes along, you can count on people, well-meaning Christians all (or at least they claim) to rush right up and try and douse it with a big bucket of cold water.
Here is another source
A FALSE HEALING REVIVAL?? -Florida—Andrew Strom
http://churchwarnings.blogspot.com/2008/04/false-healing-revival-florida-andrew.html
I had a great bible teacher that said, “do not be afraid to check out what your critics are saying, for sometimes they are right.” Just that one saying has helped me many times.
I’ve been to third world countries and have been in large church meetings there. Many of the things that go on in Todd Bentley’s meeting, the nationals in the third world countries call demonic.
How many third world countries have you been in, let alone church meetings? The church in America needs to wake up.
I was there last night. I took a friend who has a blood mutation which causes his blood to coagulate in his circulatory system. The doctors gave him 3 to 6 months a year ago.
Bentley called up those diagnosed terminal at the end of the service, and my friend got prayer.
He’s not a believer, but he’s got to be close. He’s open somewhat, but he’s really hobbled with reasoning and logic- the kind that separates you from faith.
He did feel something during the prayer though, he described it as being hit with something, an electricity in the air, an intense emotional experience. This is a non-believer talking. He knew something happened, we just don’t knwo exactly what yet.
He says he’ll know if anything changed, because his legs swell from the condition. If it stops, that’s a good sign. I don’t know when his next doctor’s visit is.
By the way Armed Civilian, you do realize that hordes of naysayers will descend upon this thread from all quarters, and the ‘religious’ ones will be the worst. If you need healing, don’t let it damage your faith, be encouraged.
I was going to the old Rodney Howard Browns revivals back in 93, 94? I sat there the first night and watched wat was happening. I said this is either a> the biggest scam I’ve ever seen, or b> the coolest thing I’ve ever seen. Then Browne invited the unsaved to receive Christ.
About 500 people rushed to the altar. I never questioned it after that.
By the way, its’ also at http://www.god.tv on the net.
Here are some eye witness accounts.
http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/most-contagious-anointing-florida/
I don’t mind you telling of the good things that are happening but please tell the other side also.
Thee are some of the other things that happen in his meetings, I’ve been in them and have seen them for myself.
I don’t believe in silencing the truth teller and I’m sure you don’t either, so tell the whole truth. That’s all I’m asking.
A few of the possible physical manifestations observed in meetings, that could indicate demonization
* Obsessive/Compulsive/Driven behavior (Luke 8:29)
* Crazed or abnormal behavior (Luke 8:35; Mark 5:5)
* Mocking (Luke 4:33-35; Acts 16:16-18]
* Bodily contortions or convulsions (Luke 4:33-36; Mark 1:25-26); bulging eyes; contorted face; slithering like a snake; crouching like a cat; etc.
* Seizure (being seized by the demon and driven to do something) (Luke 8:29; Luke 9:39-42)
* Babbling (not to be mistaken for tongues; it’s when a totally infantile sound is produced.)
* Barking
* Birthing, when someone sits themselves down on the ground in a position like a woman does when giving birth, and then starts groaning and writhing as if giving birth. (The sign is that once made pregnant with the Gospel, something new is being born in them — something spiritual.)
* Uncomfortable Tingling/Burning (a sensation in the body’s extremities, similar to that of losing circulation, only the circulation is unaffected.)
You know, that spontaneous joy and laughter thing started a long time ago. I saw it for the first time in 94, I think. Your source here is ignorant at best. Let me tell you from personal experience that I had a depression, a negativity that I can only describe as demonic, driven out of my life the first moment that I encountered this particular manifestation of God. I wouldn’t go back to that misery for anything, and I try to get some of that experience every chance I get.
As for Bentley, guess what- he’s a fallible guy just like you and me. He will make mistakes, he will say wrong things, he will do wrong things. Have some grace when you consider this, because we’ll all be judged by the measure we mete.
How’s that for an eyewitness account? Please don’t reject the baby with the bathwater.
All sounds like something to be avoided. Mass hysteria can produce unusual sights.
First of all, you’ll always have emotionalistic flakes in any group of people- they will do such things that you’ve listed in the flesh, or even under demonic influence- at which time they should be delivered.
But even in a ‘respectable’ church, the flesh just manifests there differently, usually in some sort of personal manipulation, control or judgmentalism. And when it’s done by the ministers, it usually occurs around offering time.
Now I’ll tell you this, I have absolutely felt a tingling in my hands when I pray for the sick. Not all the time, but from time to time. It’s pretty cool when it happens actually. No, we don’t walk by sight, but it’s nice to know that there’s something happening in the spiritual realm that affects the physical.
A dear friend of mine went with Todd Bentley to Africa. She said it was a grand experience and when she prayed for people, they were healed. It changed so much of her life and former beliefs about healing. I’ve seen him and he IS a bit much, but he has a tremendous testimony of how he was delivered from about every sin you can imagine. He spends tremendous amounts of time with the Lord every day.
Yep, you got that right. Christians have been on the forefront of destroying every revival that’s come along. How sad is that?
ovrtaxt, that’s wonderful, I never question the real authentic miracles that happen.
After being over seas and seeing first hand demonic activity in church meetings, and then coming back to the states where discernment is greatly lacking, I began to see the same type of demonic activity here in the states. The nationals are much more sensitive to the spirit realm and as soon as someone manifested they took the person out of the meeting and took them through deliverance. Here in America they let the people in the meeting who are manifesting. The nationals say demons love to put on a show but they will not allow it.
These people aren’t educated but know a demon when they see one.
I believe the gift of discerning of spirits is lacking in the church of America.
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