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Interesting logic.
1 posted on 05/09/2008 12:32:34 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON

Sedentary vs. active?


2 posted on 05/09/2008 12:34:42 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Friends with umbrellas are outstanding in the rain.)
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Sounded interesting until I saw “...Harvard psychologists.” Sorry, but anything coming out of that clown school that’s not from the science/engineering/math departments should be considered as believable as a CBS news broadcast.


3 posted on 05/09/2008 12:34:42 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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I’ll bet boys who don’t play video games are also at greater risk to be physically fit, have a job, and date real girls.


4 posted on 05/09/2008 12:35:23 PM PDT by live+let_live
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As many strategy games as I’ve played, I should have conquered the world by now. At least I have stomped out the Elves and the Goblins. You don’t see many of them around now do you?


5 posted on 05/09/2008 12:37:03 PM PDT by DannyTN
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If you look at the violent crime in the US over the past 20 years among teenagers it's gone down, and gone down significantly, and if you look at videogame play, it's gone up," said Dr Lawrence Kutner and Dr Cheryl Olsen of Harvard Medical School in a recent interview.

Apparently he never read that correlation does not equal causation.

I think the reduction in violent crime over the last 20 years has more to do with the fact that the "crack wars" that ravaged our cities during the late 1980s/early 1990s ended.

7 posted on 05/09/2008 12:37:27 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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I read a lot of crime novels and true crime stories. I must be at risk of being a mass murderer.


9 posted on 05/09/2008 12:40:31 PM PDT by WarToad
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If you look at the violent crime in the US over the past 20 years among teenagers it's gone down, and gone down significantly, and if you look at videogame play, it's gone up," said Dr Lawrence Kutner and Dr Cheryl Olsen of Harvard Medical School in a recent interview.

Oh, and forgot to add this, too.

The type of kids (socioeconomic status, etc.) who regularly play video games on expensive electronic videogame systems tend not to be the class of kids who committed many crimes in the first place, so I doubt he'll get far with a "playing video games reduces crime" argument. These same kids ARE, however, the pool of kids who have produced most of the school shooters and the like (who've been overwhelming from "good" families in "good" neighbourhoods and district, the kids who basically are doing in real life what is depicted in a lot of the first-person shooter games.

10 posted on 05/09/2008 12:41:07 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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When I was a kid, boys played with toy guns, army men, played cops & robbers, King of the Hill, etc., and that seemed to be where they got their violent tendencies out.

Now guns are bad, the Army is evil, cops are demonized, etc., and there is no outlet for little boy behavior.

So, maybe video games are a way for boys to be boys?


11 posted on 05/09/2008 12:43:19 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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Oh Sure... I bet those Amish kids are at great risk for becoming highly dysfunctional and dangerous too.


14 posted on 05/09/2008 12:53:55 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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Well, these boys won't get into trouble!


16 posted on 05/09/2008 12:56:20 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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Dr. Leonard Sax, in Boys at Risk, states that video games contribute to the wussification (my term, not his) of boys today.
18 posted on 05/09/2008 12:57:10 PM PDT by Salvey
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To: PROCON
Harvard psychologists appear to be making the rounds this week.
26 posted on 05/09/2008 1:16:14 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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My son played tons of video games until he was diagnosed with “seizure disorder”. He had to give them up for 6 months. Fortunately for him, he outgrew playing them constantly. He joined a bowling league, partipates in trivia night at a local watering hole and dates real girls.


28 posted on 05/09/2008 1:20:23 PM PDT by LottieDah (Democrats and liberals never fail to disappoint.)
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Let me be the first to say....bull###.


33 posted on 05/09/2008 1:27:31 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (<----- Typical White Person)
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What a crock of BS. Get outside and do stuff, constructive stuff. Play catch, a walk in the woods, play tag, hide & seek, anything.
Kids these days are more violent because of a lack of morality. Parents don’t have it , or don’t enforce it, and the kids will react negatively because of it.


34 posted on 05/09/2008 1:31:31 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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I’ve never found “violent” video games or “violent” movies to be problematic. I do think that the context is important. There is nothing wrong with young boys or girls pretending they are heroes fighting evil monsters. I’ve played the full gambit myself.

I started out with Atari and then finally got my parents to purchase a Tandy Color Computer. There was a cool wire frame game called Dungeons of Dagorath (http://mspencer.net/daggorath/dodpcp.html)through which I learned to type fast because one had to type actual words or letter combinations to do things and there wasn’t any restore so losing meant restarting from the beginning. It was a positive thing. I learned how to program a bit and some of the games were very interesting. One called Biosphere was especially good where you could combine organisms with different traits to populate a alien world and modify the environment etc.

Then I was able to move up and get a Tandy 1000HX. My first game was a game called Thexder which was a transforming robot with cool three-voice-sound.

http://www.geocities.com/thexderhome/thexder.htm
http://www.dosbox.com/

There was also a neat game called Microscopic Mission.
I learned what drugs like Vasopressin were as I piloted a microscopic vehicle around inside a virtual person’s body.
http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/laser-surgeon-the-microscopic-mission/screenshots

I loved games like King’s Quest (the ones where you really had to type words) and then I discovered Leisure Suit Larry “Passionate Patti in Search of the Pulsating Pectorals”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leisure_Suit_Larry_3:_Passionate_Patti_in_Pursuit_of_the_Pulsating_Pectorals
http://www.allowe.com/

My parents had no idea what the game was. I even got an upgrade to 512k so I could play it and spent hours figuring out the answers to the questions at the beginning of the game so I could play it with no limits for children. (oh the innocent of pixelated nudity) It was an educational experience to say the least because I had very little knowledge of sex to say the least and my sense of humor was also fairly matter of fact. Who would’ve thought that a condominium was really a condom for midgets?

I found another love with heros quest and star flight, and built up the patience of saint swapping disks. Then I got my first computer with a hard drive a 486/33mhz with 4 megs of memory. I thought I was in heaven. Especially once a buddy of mine gave me his old 486/66mhz processor. I still remember gently prying the 33 out over a period of what seemed like hours and gentle putting in place the new processor.

Then I got my first 2400 baud modem and signed up for the prodigy online service. Again my parents had no idea but for me it was “freedom”. I also learned about dialup BBS systems and downloading MOD files and graphics and door games. I became adept at setting up things like Bimodem, Zmodem,YModem and even the fantastic ZyRion protocol. This opened up a seemingly endless supply of shareware and games and of course pictures and door games.

It wasn’t long till I discovered Castle Wolfenstein. I still remember the thrill my eyes felt the first time I saw it in all its primitive 3D glory. I spent a lot of time running around blowing away Nazis and monsters. There were a lot of other games. I suppose the pinnacle came with Quake I and II and when I obtained broadband there was no limit. I don’t think I suffered from it. If anything it allowed me to socialize in ways that I never would’ve been able to in an area where hunting and farming was what we generally did in our spare time though I tended to spend a lot of time reading anything and everything. It was my interest in computers and games outside of school that led partially to my successful career. It provided me a path to success and with the occasional thrill of shooting someone out of the air at one thousand yards with a railgun. Now that is sweet.lol


35 posted on 05/09/2008 1:32:18 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Never confuse polite defferment for submission.)
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Have there ever been any reputable studies showing that violent video games do make boys more violent?
36 posted on 05/09/2008 1:32:55 PM PDT by Arguendo
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It’s that old debate: Catharsis vs. Stimulus.

Does a violent videogame/movie/book lead you to commit violent acts (stimulus)? Or, do you use it to take out your frustration/aggression (catharsis)?


43 posted on 05/09/2008 2:02:13 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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You have failed to protect your homeys!


44 posted on 05/09/2008 2:03:47 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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Bet they won’t apply the same logic to guns and knives.


45 posted on 05/09/2008 2:11:39 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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