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Nutter, Rendell want assault-weapons ban - NRA says they exploit Liczbinski death (new federal AWB!)
Philadelphia Daily News ^ | May. 9, 2008 | CATHERINE LUCEY

Posted on 05/09/2008 10:34:55 AM PDT by neverdem

Days after a Philadelphia police sergeant was killed with a semi-automatic rifle, Mayor Nutter and Gov. Rendell called upon Congress to enact a new federal assault-weapons ban that would remove such weapons from the streets.

"The time has come for politicians to decide," said Rendell at the City Hall news conference attended by top police brass and state elected officials. "You have to decide whether you're on their side - the men and women who wear blue - or whether you're on the side of the gun lobby."

The federal assault-weapons ban, which lasted from 1994 through 2004, outlawed an array of military weapons and semi-automatics that fire and automatically reload when the trigger is pulled.

The expired bill would not have outlawed the Chinese-made SKS Carbine - outfitted with a 30-round detachable magazine - used to kill Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski Saturday.

But a new version of the legislation, currently languishing in the House of Representatives, specifically lists "SKS with detachable magazine" as a banned weapon.

Supporters of the federal ban said that the restrictions made it harder to obtain illegal weapons. But critics argued that loopholes in the ban made it easy to modify deadly guns to keep them legal.

Rendell and Nutter have sent a letter to the state's representatives and senators in Washington. In it, they ask for a new assault-weapons ban, but do not back a specific piece of legislation.

Nutter said that the city just needs help.

"Those weapons have one goal and use in mind," Nutter said. "They are to destroy human beings and do it as quickly and as dangerously and in as devastating a fashion as possible. I stand here with Governor Rendell and members of the general assembly to ask for help. Our state and federal legislators need to pass laws that protect citizens and do not protect criminals."

Two local legislators are already showing their support. U.S. Rep. Chaka Fattah co-sponsored the new version of the assault-weapons ban. And U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak this week added his name to the list of co-sponsors.

Sestak said that after the Liczbinski slaying he decided to see if he could "bring a light to a piece of legislation that hasn't been moving around. Let's add our name to it and try to move this further down the road."

Nutter also criticized the National Rifle Association, saying they should support this effort.

"The National Rifle Association must explain to the public how they can stand behind criminals who have access to these kind of weapons while purporting to protect the Second Amendment right," he said.

NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said it was "sad to see [Rendell and Nutter] stoop to this level to exploit the death of a police officer."

He said that new laws weren't needed. Instead he questioned why someone like accused killer Eric Floyd - who has a long criminal history and fled a halfway house earlier this year - was out on the street.

"The most important thing for residents in Philadelphia and Pennsylvania is to ask their governor and their mayor what career criminals are doing out on the street," he said. "The problem in Philadelphia and Pennsylvania is violent criminals get multiple chances."

Yesterday's news conference grew contentious when a Philadelphia Inquirer reporter questioned whether the SKS Carbine was technically an assault weapon, noting that the National Rifle Association disagreed with the classification and that a search on www.wikipedia.com brought up information saying it was not.

Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey then got into the mix.

"I don't care about Wikipedia or any other kind of pedias," he said. "If it's not an assault weapon by definition, then add it to the freaking list."

Meanwhile, gun-control advocacy group CeaseFire PA sent a letter to Pennsylvania gun-shop owners Wednesday, asking them to voluntarily stop selling the SKS Carbine. Nutter and Rendell said that they supported the effort.

Fred Delia, 69, owner of Delia's Gun Shop, on Torresdale Avenue near Benner Street, sells the weapon. He said he would not honor such a request.

"I don't want to see any of the police get shot," Delia said. But, he added, "them guns have been sold for the last 20 years."

Delia, who has run his shop for 39 years, said gun-shop owners are being unfairly targeted.

"I understand they're getting mad in the city," he said. "They have to get to the source of this. It's drugs, it's judges." *


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To: Travis McGee

Paging our little buddy Chuckie Bloomer! :-)


21 posted on 05/09/2008 11:01:57 AM PDT by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: messierhunter
Sorry, back for more, found another sentence that made my blood boil.

"The National Rifle Association must explain to the public how they can stand behind criminals who have access to these kind of weapons while purporting to protect the Second Amendment right."

Horse dung. The NRA does NOT support the right to own guns of any kind for criminals. Gun grabbers like to accuse the NRA of such for their support of FOPA, which dared to clarify the list of persons prohibited from owning a gun. To anyone with half a brain and the willingness to be intellectually honest, the purpose of the NRA in supporting that bill, which covered far more than that, was not to allow criminals to own guns. FOPA also provided common sense gun rights, like the right to pass through a state with strict gun laws without being arrested for having a firearm locked and unloaded in your car. To gun grabbers like these idiots, that's probably tantamount to supporting the right of a "criminal" who is breaking that state's ban on gun ownership (say, of owning or possessing assault rifles).
22 posted on 05/09/2008 11:03:08 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: neverdem

Why don’t they investigate how this criminal got this weapon? Too much work huh?...TYPICAL!


23 posted on 05/09/2008 11:04:37 AM PDT by Edgerunner (At the heart of every absurdity, lies a liberal lie)
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To: neverdem

I think the police should set a good example and relinquish whatever assault weapons they might have. Maybe they can move on up to sidearms.


24 posted on 05/09/2008 11:06:35 AM PDT by rightwinggoth
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To: jrd

“we have a couple thousand gun laws now one more is not going to solve the problem”

We know that laws are only obeyed by lawful individuals, and that the only real gun law makes the 20k+ laws on the books unconstitutional.

How many are there?

http://www.gunlaws.com/faq.htm#howmany


25 posted on 05/09/2008 11:06:45 AM PDT by petro45acp (NO good endeavor survives an excess of "adult supervision" (read bureaucracy)!)
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To: neverdem
"If it's not an assault weapon by definition, then add it to the freaking list."


26 posted on 05/09/2008 11:09:55 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: hiredhand
Mayor Nutter and Gov. Rendell called upon Congress to enact a new federal assault-weapons ban that would remove such weapons from the streets.

How, with a giant magnet that will suck them up from the street?

Liberals would be funny, if they were not so dangerous.


27 posted on 05/09/2008 11:12:19 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: neverdem
"Those weapons have one goal and use in mind," Nutter said. "They are to destroy human beings and do it as quickly and as dangerously and in as devastating a fashion as possible..."

Really Nutter? Am I destroying a human being in this picture?



No Nutter, I'm not destroying a human being here, but I am having fun destroying your claim.
28 posted on 05/09/2008 11:12:19 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: neverdem
"The time has come for politicians to decide," said Rendell at the City Hall news conference attended by top police brass and state elected officials. "You have to decide whether you're on their side - the men and women who wear blue - or whether you're on the side of the gun lobby."

I think the time has about come for the American people to decide if they are on the side of the Constitution or on the side of lowlife politicians.

29 posted on 05/09/2008 11:12:28 AM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: neverdem

>Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey then got into the mix.
>If it’s not an assault weapon by definition, then add it to the freaking list.”

Carry that down to every type of gun, why don’t you?

What part of “the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” do you not understand?

And he is the Chief of Police?
Philly has bigger problems than it is able to understand.


30 posted on 05/09/2008 11:14:58 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: bill1952

“That reload when the trigger is pulled”. Like a Revolver?


31 posted on 05/09/2008 11:19:37 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
"Those weapons have one goal and use in mind," Nutter said. "They are to destroy human beings and do it as quickly and as dangerously and in as devastating a fashion as possible."

Which is, I suppose, why so many police forces employ them, include Philadelphia's... ?

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

32 posted on 05/09/2008 11:24:52 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: petro45acp

“we have a FEW thousand gun laws now one more is not going to solve the problem”

We know that laws are only obeyed by lawful individuals, and that the only real gun law makes the 20k+ laws on the books unconstitutional.

How many are there?
maybe I should have used Few instead of couple.


33 posted on 05/09/2008 11:30:28 AM PDT by jrd
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To: petro45acp

“we have a FEW thousand gun laws now one more is not going to solve the problem”

We know that laws are only obeyed by lawful individuals, and that the only real gun law makes the 20k+ laws on the books unconstitutional.

How many are there?
maybe I should have used Few instead of couple.


34 posted on 05/09/2008 11:30:30 AM PDT by jrd
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To: neverdem

And you can bet that all three frontrunners will allow such a bill to pass and be signed into law. That is what happens when you have a Pseudo-Republican who wants desperately to be a Democrat running against another who is officially a Democrat.

And all three have proven records of not caring at all for the US Constitution.


35 posted on 05/09/2008 11:30:48 AM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: neverdem

It’s not the guns on the street, you lazy incompetent cowards...... it’s the criminals on the street.


36 posted on 05/09/2008 11:31:31 AM PDT by Gator113 (Obama is a member of the Far Wright Conspiracy.......)
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To: TigersEye
>The time has come for politicians to decide," said Rendell at the City Hall ...

>>I think the time has about come for the American people to decide if they are on the side of the Constitution or on the side of lowlife politicians.

Exactly. - Stop FR. We have the FR quote of the day.

37 posted on 05/09/2008 11:33:22 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: DCBryan1
Which politician? I just finished reading it yesterday.
38 posted on 05/09/2008 11:34:45 AM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: 2banana

Thanks for the URL!


39 posted on 05/09/2008 11:35:29 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: ctdonath2

I know they made them remove the bayonet lug off them. This has stopped all drive by jabbings in Philadelphia!


40 posted on 05/09/2008 11:36:20 AM PDT by Holicheese (Hillary deserves the CMoH for her time in Tuzla!)
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