Kansas, Or A Seattle Suburb? (Obama trying to hide mother's Seattle [leftist] roots?)

Sound Politics (Washington State) ^ | May 8, 2008 | Jim Miller

[Stoat]

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[wideminded]

"If you were concerned about something going wrong in the world, Stanley would know about it first," said [fellow student] Chip Wall, who described her as "a fellow traveler. . . . We were liberals before we knew what liberals were."

(Or as I would say, leftists.)

Chip Wall is a Marine and served in Vietnam.

[angelsonmyside]

Thank you for the post.

[SatinDoll]

Being picky here, but I would never call H.L.Mencken and Ayn Rand (who wrote Atlas Shrugged) inspirational to liberal thinking.

[Stoat]

Thank you for the post.

You're quite welcome, and I'm delighted that you've found it to be worthwhile  :-)

[Stoat]

Being picky here, but I would never call H.L.Mencken and Ayn Rand (who wrote Atlas Shrugged) inspirational to liberal thinking.

I wouldn't either.  I believe that the author is wanting to illustrate the 'cutting edge' nature of that public school course, particularly in the context of that era.

There are innumerable ways to frame the leftist nature of Seattle and it's suburbs...if that was the author's intent in that particular paragraph, he certainly could have done so more effectively.

[aruanan]

Being picky here, but I would never call H.L.Mencken and Ayn Rand (who wrote Atlas Shrugged) inspirational to liberal thinking.

There is more to the Left than being doctrinaire Marxists. Some are eclectic "free thinkers" that dabble in anything iconoclastic. Look at Shirley McClaine and Barbra Streisand. They're both liberal/left, but they're not left in the same sense that Hillary and Barack are, though none of them want to acknowledge any power greater than themselves that isn't something they've designed and have control over.

[dr_lew]

I was gonna say ...

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

Sorry, but Mercer Island is hardly the bastion for liberalism that Seattle proper is. And they mention two teachers that, for one, are not described as liberal at all, (Ayn Rand....please) and, far more importantly, are not even mentioned as having actually taught Obama’s mother, just that they worked at the same school she attended.

[21twelve]

Correct about Mercer Island. There was a long article in the Seattle Times - perhaps three to four weeks ago? Said how she didn’t quite fit in, and would catch the bus and hang out in Seattle downtown scene quite a bit. Also talked about how she was very much a free spirit, was going to do great things, independent woman type things.

Her classmates were very surprised when they found out that she had married so soon after school.

I’ll hang out my prejudiced shingle a bit here, but from the tone of the article - I figured perhaps in her liberal minded view of the world, what could be more free-spirited, radical, and independent (and “progressive”) than marrying some black guy from a third-world country?

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

what could be more free-spirited, radical, and independent (and “progressive”) than marrying some black guy from a third-world country?

You are exactly right.

[Stoat]

Sorry, but Mercer Island is hardly the bastion for liberalism that Seattle proper is.

Certainly not these days, as stratospheric property values have squeezed out any hippies that might have been shacking up there (perhaps they moved to Fremont or Belltown  :-))  I think that Mercer Island is probably most famously known as the home of Michael Medved and Bill Gates these days.

From the article:

Sociologically, Mercer Island was already a long way from small town Kansas

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 And they mention two teachers that, for one, are not described as liberal at all, (Ayn Rand....please) and, far more importantly, are not even mentioned as having actually taught Obama’s mother, just that they worked at the same school she attended.

All true, but I think that the author (how I hate to put words into people's mouths) may have been wanting to illustrate the overall ambiance more than anything, as evidenced by the quote from Chris Wall:

........who described her as "a fellow traveler. . . . We were liberals before we knew what liberals were."

I think that the bigger picture here is that "if" the premise of the article is true i.e. the Obama camp is wanting to distance the candidate from the perception of 'being from a left-wing family' they are acting on the current (and quite accurate) perception of Seattle being hard-left.  They are probably thinking that for people on the other side of the country who haven't spent time in the area to differentiate such a fine point....that Mercer Island isn't has hard-left as Seattle even though it's only a few minutes' drive away...is asking a bit much, particularly considering how poorly-informed so many voters are these days.

They probably think that it's a whole lot easier to simply try to make the case that "his mother is from smalltown Kansas" rather than "his mother spent her formative years in a ' not quite so Left' suburb of The People's Republic of Seattle.

In our age of 20-second soundbites, they probably judge the "Kansas" story to be a whole easier one to sell.

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[SW6906]

Stoat, my friend, I hate to point out an error, but Bill Gates doesn’t live on Mercer Island, he lives in Medina (or is it Clyde Hill?), just South of the 520 bridge in Bellevue. Paul Allen, IIRC, lives on Mercer Island...... ;o)

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[RainMan]

Just a couple of corrections. I have no idea about Medved, but Gates lives in Bellevue, not Mercer Island.

Being a lifelong resident of the region, I can also say that MI was NEVER a hippie haven. Even in the 60’s, it was eliteist. It was the richest community in what at the time was a relatively poor region. The MI political scene was republican, but it was Rockefeller Republican. It was the poor little white kids who wanted to use mommy and daddy’s money to save the world in the morning, and then go play tennis in the afternoon. Actually ... not a lot has changed since then except MI is now considered just slightly upper middle class.

[GATOR NAVY]

I can also say that MI was NEVER a hippie haven. Even in the 60’s, it was eliteist.

That's what I remembered. We moved to Kirkland from Seattle in the late '60s. That whole lakefront Bellevue/Mercer Island area was very upper middle class, way above what Kirkland was at the time.

[kellynla]

I don’t care if Obama was born in Bethlehem and grew up in Jerusalem and his parents’ names were Joseph & Mary. LOL

And he turned out to be an anti-American racist Leftie.

And that is all that matters!

[Stoat]

I can also say that MI was NEVER a hippie haven.

And I never said that it was.

When I said:

stratospheric property values have squeezed out any hippies that might have been shacking up there

I suppose I could have said "any remaining hippies" or "any hippies that might have been hiding under a rock there", but it appears that my attempt at tongue in cheek humor pertaining to property values has been taken literally here, instead of as it was meant..... a wry comment about how hippies could never live there.   I'm a lifelong Washington resident also, and my hope had been that such a ludicrous concept, hippies in Mercer Island, would be obvious to those familiar to the area.  I should have used more smiley faces :-) or LOL's to make it more obvious....sorry!

I have no idea about Medved, but Gates lives in Bellevue

Michael Medved frequently mentions his home on Mercer Island on his radio show, and Bill Gates lives in Medina, which is not far from Bellevue, and just a short distance across the water from Mercer Island.    Sorry again.

Yahoo! Maps, Medina, WA

Bill Gates' house - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, I stand corrected on all of these vital points.  :-)

[Stoat]

Stoat, my friend,

Thank you for your kind words, my friend  :-)

I hate to point out an error, but Bill Gates doesn’t live on Mercer Island, he lives in Medina (or is it Clyde Hill?), just South of the 520 bridge in Bellevue.

You're right, I blew it

Bill Gates' house - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 Paul Allen, IIRC, lives on Mercer Island...... ;o)

You're probably right, but at this point I don't really care anymore....an offhand comment of mine in the context of a poorly-delivered attempt at tongue in cheek, wry humor has generated far more attention than I had intended.

I'll view this as a reminder to be particularly diligent at fact-checking when posting late at night and to avoid attempts at humor  :-)