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"Advocates say it's a matter of consistency – bring all federal lands in line with state laws. The National Park Service and the Fish and Wildlife Service would simply be conforming to state gun rules that apply to Bureau of Land Management and Forest Service land. But if that logic applies, why not allow logging on all federal lands, per state law? "

Because trees are inanimate and pose less harm than animals or people.

1 posted on 05/08/2008 7:58:35 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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“That’s just what the nation’s millions of park visitors don’t need.”

Yeah, better to let the thugs that frequent these parks prey upon the other visitors with impunity. /s


2 posted on 05/08/2008 8:01:07 PM PDT by Levante
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Its funny how those on the Left who believe in the federal government running your life turn vocal state's rights defenders when it comes to your RKBA in our national parks.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 05/08/2008 8:01:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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They say the same thing everytime carry laws are relaxed. Mass shootings, cowboy gun fights, more people being shot.

It never happens, but they keep predicting it.

4 posted on 05/08/2008 8:04:53 PM PDT by Paperpusher
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Should we break it to this bozo that people “pack heat” in parks now?


6 posted on 05/08/2008 8:06:57 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy - Codename -> "Bobber")
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I always pack a pistol when I go backpacking or hiking and have for over twenty years... there are bears and bobcats out there!


8 posted on 05/08/2008 8:09:30 PM PDT by DenverCossack
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We had some young ladies get killed over in George Washington National Forest several years back ~ they were reportedly lesbians who liked to camp out in the mountains, but that's neither here nor there.

The guy(s) who killed them were able to get away with their crime because the ladies left their guns at home.

National Parks are, for the most part, pretty devoid of development, and folks who go to them to have a good time are at the mercy of the criminals who go there to have a bad time.

Time to even the score.

And, Fur Shur, I'd definitely trust an armed law abiding citizen over any criminal anytime.

The editors at Christian Science Monitor should crawl back in their holes and go to sleep. This issue has nothing to do with them. After all, they get shot one of their buddies will lay hands on 'em and they're healed, right?!

10 posted on 05/08/2008 8:16:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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It never fails, does it? That same tired old fallacy about, “blood in the streets” now revamped as, “blood in the woods”

Is it not sad that the elitist liberal minds of the world so despise and fear their fellow man that they want to treat us all like children, incapable of behaving in a civil manner without close supervision...by them, of course!

17 posted on 05/08/2008 8:25:57 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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Here in Washington (the state) there are National Parks right in the middle of a National Forest where you can pack heat ... the bears, cougars, wolves, coyote's et al don't know the difference when going into one area than another .... people who don't know the extent of a National Park think it's just a couple of acres of grass with ponds and stuff, not dense woodland with trails that go for miles .....
18 posted on 05/08/2008 8:27:54 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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armalite AR 7 - nice


19 posted on 05/08/2008 8:28:33 PM PDT by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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I’d rather have a firearm and not need it then need one and not have it at hand.


21 posted on 05/08/2008 8:31:11 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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“California 2-Year-Old Dragged From Yard by Coyote in Third Such Attack in Five Days”

Wonder what would some parent do in a National Park where firearms are not currently allowed?

Or someone hiking along a trail and is jumped by a mountain lion as has happened in California on several occasions ....

You go into their habitat you’d better be prepared.


24 posted on 05/08/2008 8:32:54 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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Armed to kill in national parks?

Armed for self defense in nation parks.

26 posted on 05/08/2008 8:34:33 PM PDT by TYVets
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Memo to CSM:
You bunch of namby-pamby panty-waists better stay east of the Hudson: the real world can be a tough place, especially for those who can’t take care of themselves.


31 posted on 05/08/2008 8:54:15 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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licensed gun holders are not the ones that are going to harm others, it is the people that do not care about law that will.


35 posted on 05/08/2008 9:05:27 PM PDT by 1Truthseeker (willfully ignorant in Greek means dumb on purpose.)
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“unknown” appears to be one of the big mouthed idiots who think that forbidding firearms somehow prevents criminals from carrying them.
37 posted on 05/08/2008 9:23:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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Oh, please. The only crime that I think would be even remotely likely to increase in the national parks if this was allowed is poaching... and somehow, I have a feeling that it’s not that hard to get a gun into a national park in the first place, if someone really wants to break those laws. However, in my opinion, a slight increase in illegal hunting activities would be well worth it for how much more people would be able to defend themselves, and the possible lowering of other crime rates as a result.


39 posted on 05/08/2008 9:33:32 PM PDT by Hyzenthlay (I aim to misbehave.)
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"That's just what the nation's millions of park visitors don't need.

There, fixed it.

40 posted on 05/08/2008 9:40:58 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (I'd rather be single than wish I was.)
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It would truly amaze liberals if they knew how many people are carrying.

I carry to my friends' parties all the time. They never know.

One time I went outside to have a cigarette with another Second Amendment junkie and told him I was carrying. It turned out he was too!

41 posted on 05/08/2008 9:47:19 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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F*ck ‘em. I pack a .32 acp military issue, nice and lightweight for those who practice hiking light. I’m not going 80 miles in the backcountry, with my kids, without being able to protect myself. We’ve come upon cougar kills, had a cougar right outside our tent at night, either that or a wolf, plus you got more crazies out there than you can shake a stick at. We wear whistles when traveling in brush or berry areas, the kids are taught to blow like hell if they see a cougar to scare it off and talk loud in berry areas to alert bears to our presence. We’re not looking for engagement opportunities and practice low impact trekking. One time I’ve had to fire a shot in the dead of night when one was sniffing my head through the tent fabric. I was glad I didn’t have to rely on my Bowie knife under my pillow. I feel for the poor bastard that tries to get one over on me.


46 posted on 05/09/2008 1:54:23 AM PDT by CBF (It's the law stupid!)
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“unknown” clearly has not been to ANY national Park in the past 15 years. Only the most remote and hard to camp at ones are safe for family activity. Yosemite is in my back yard. I will NOT go there because of the gang activity and general lawlessness. The last thing I need is to have to shoot some scumbag and have a Federal gun charge and investigation. Decent folks should boycott National Parks until the rules are changed AND the Parks are cleaned up.
49 posted on 05/09/2008 5:24:59 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Sleep with one eye open, Gripping your pillow tight , Exit light , Enter night.......)
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