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Man who killed hikers in '81 suspected in shootings (Giles County, VA)
The Richmond Times-Dispatch ^ | 05/08/2008

Posted on 05/08/2008 8:05:14 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands

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To: CIB-173RDABN

Don’t have anything for you, but that it is well known in the Law Enforcement/Forensics community.


21 posted on 05/08/2008 8:19:40 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid!)
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To: Corin Stormhands

It’s just a shame we can’t get the killers in national parks together on the same trails at the same time with the politicians who ban guns in national parks ...


22 posted on 05/08/2008 8:20:29 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: Corin Stormhands

I vaguely remember hearing about this when I was in high school...I grew up over the mountains in Amherst but we got the TV stations out of Roanoke and they were all over the murders.

Texans say it best...”there’s some folks that just need killin’.” This guy is one of ‘em.

}:-)4


23 posted on 05/08/2008 8:20:40 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

And the Parole Board members aren’t asked a word about why they felt it was safe to release him.


24 posted on 05/08/2008 8:22:24 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I think this was during a period when the prosecutors felt that getting a serious first degree murder conviction would be difficult, and there was the unfortunate tendency to let a lot of people plea out.


25 posted on 05/08/2008 8:22:57 AM PDT by livius
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To: ladyjane
Why in heaven’s name wasn’t this man executed or put away for life? What is wrong with our judicial system?

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Because convictions for first degree murder still require evidence. From the linked article:

With no clear motive for the killing and what then-Commonwealth's Attorney Hezekiah Osborne called scant physical evidence, Smith accepted a plea agreement that reduced his charges to second-degree murder

26 posted on 05/08/2008 8:23:35 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Corin Stormhands

Agreed, he’s a psycho, I stated that MOST murders are of someone known, a crime of passion.


27 posted on 05/08/2008 8:24:59 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid!)
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To: mgc1122

Well, the AT is kind of a special case because it spans so many states, and most of its length is actually not inside national parks. In Virginia it’s on National Forest land more than inside National Parks, and AFAIK guns are legal inside the national forests—my friends and family hunted in the George Washington National Forest all the time. The problem you run into with the AT isn’t just national park regulations, but state regulations on the lands outside the parks. In Virginia, you’re much more likely to be seen favorably if you have to defend yourself on the AT than in, say, Maryland.

}:-)4


28 posted on 05/08/2008 8:25:20 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
... authorities closed a 25-mile stretch of the Appalachian Trail... "I just hope this doesn't reflect bad on the trail,... people (might) start to think it's unsafe."

Naw. Nuthin' like that.

Guns aren't allowed on the Trail (National Park land), so it's "safe". Just ask any Liberal who wants to prevent honest concealed carrying citizens from legally carrying a weapon.

The fact a convicted murderer had a gun and was wandering the Trail hunting for new victims doesn't mean private citizens should be allowed to carry them in self defense. Better to keep those rules in place to prevent Wild West shootouts or mass slaughter of Bambi and Smokey.

After all, we are constantly reminded by the Liberals and the National Park Service Phoobahs that the Parks are "safe". So, they must be!

29 posted on 05/08/2008 8:25:56 AM PDT by Gritty (Mandatory gun-free zones are in reality free-crime zones - John Stossel)
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To: livius

Looks more like they had a weak case and took a sure 14 years. Damn.


30 posted on 05/08/2008 8:26:05 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The women got the vote and the Nation got Harding.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

My memories fuzzy, but I remember the plea bargain pissing off the locals.


31 posted on 05/08/2008 8:26:32 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (What if Tony Almeida is the 12th Cylon?)
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To: Corin Stormhands

He actually wrote a murder note in 1981 along the lines of “I like these people and I hate that I am going to have to do this to them”.


32 posted on 05/08/2008 8:26:37 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: livius

From the original article:
“Yesterday, authorities closed a 25-mile stretch of the Appalachian Trail from Pearisburg to state Route 606 in Bland. Roger Holnback, head of the Roanoke Appalachian Trail Club, which maintains 136 miles of the trail, said volunteers were shuttling hikers around the closed area.

“I just hope this doesn’t reflect bad on the trail,” Holnback said. “It was quite traumatic and sad news, and when something happens in proximity to the trail, people start to think it’s unsafe.”

Unsafe? Ya think?

The legal system is just that a system. Our septic system got clogged once and we had it pumped out. Seems the citizens should take the hint and clean the ‘legal’ system.

Regards, TL


33 posted on 05/08/2008 8:27:33 AM PDT by Tomato lover (We lose the benefit of what we read for want of meditation.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Yep - It kept him from killing any innocents for 14 years. Just for the record the guy is a PSYCHO, serial killer. Rather atypical.


34 posted on 05/08/2008 8:27:49 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid!)
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To: Gritty

A year ago, my son’s Scout troop camped in the Dismal area at Walnut Flats.


35 posted on 05/08/2008 8:27:51 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: theDentist
And the Parole Board members aren’t asked a word about why they felt it was safe to release him.

Just two years prior to his release, then Governor George Allen lead the charge for the abolishment of parole. But it didn't apply retroactively.

36 posted on 05/08/2008 8:28:22 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (What if Tony Almeida is the 12th Cylon?)
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To: east1234

The crime of passion murderers you are talking about are never charged with capital murder.


37 posted on 05/08/2008 8:33:18 AM PDT by livius
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To: Corin Stormhands
Dept of Interior just released proposed changes that would allow folks with state CCW permits to carry concealed firearms in the national park system and along both the Appalachian and the Pacific Crest trails. That relaxed rule could have resulted in an unknown number of crimes prevented just as it does now in states that have "shall issue" carry permits.
38 posted on 05/08/2008 8:33:18 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: AppyPappy

Your memory is much better than mine.

But IIRC Hez Osborne lost his next race.


39 posted on 05/08/2008 8:34:41 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (What if Tony Almeida is the 12th Cylon?)
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To: livius

Good point, shame this huy copped a plea. Bigger shame he didn’t die in prison.


40 posted on 05/08/2008 8:35:00 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid!)
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