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To: NewJerseyJoe

I think one reason why many think it’s OK to discriminate against gun owners, is that they choose to be gun owners, while humans do not have a choice in their ethnicity.


4 posted on 05/08/2008 7:40:11 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr
I think one reason why many think it’s OK to discriminate against gun owners, is that they choose to be gun owners, while humans do not have a choice in their ethnicity.

Humans also have the capacity to decide whether to behave in a civil manner or not. Clearly, not all humans are up to the task.

5 posted on 05/08/2008 7:46:29 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: stuartcr

“while humans do not have a choice in their ethnicity.”

Yes they can... since we have “choice” in this country, they can choose “none of the the above”.


8 posted on 05/08/2008 7:51:01 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: stuartcr

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I think one reason why many think it’s OK to discriminate against gun owners, is that they choose to be gun owners, while humans do not have a choice in their ethnicity.
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In allowing this argument we allow that human rights can be different depending upon ethnic or other factors. Of course that is sophistry, for all humans have unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Indeed, there is a whole spectrum of rights we retain only some of which were enumerated in the Bill of Rights.

I may not have a choice over my skin color, but for example, I have a right to express my opinion, which I have full control over, and which does not depend on my appearance. When I don’t express myself, it does not diminish my right to do so when I please.

Likewise, I have the right to self defense, and the right to defend my family and community. To deny me the right to own and use the means to effect that right would be like saying I have the right to a free press, but the ownership and use of equipment to print newspapers is only to be granted to a limited number of specially trained government employees.


13 posted on 05/08/2008 8:05:18 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: stuartcr

Actually, bud, I CHOOSE to defend my family, my life, and my way of life with the most expedient object ever invented. The firearm is a TOOL, nothing more. It is neither good nor evil; the person behind it has the CHOICE to act in a good or evil capacity.

Mayor Thugnutter and his fascist flunkie Police Chief Thugramsey and the other rejects on City Council saw fit to try to pass 5 gun laws (one of which is a LAUNDRY LIST of so-called “assault rifles” which suspiciously resembles the list currently in force in New Jersey) win direct defiance to the law of the State, as well as in defiance of the US Constitution.

Why are they not being frog-marched off to jail by PA State Police and US Marshalls for blatantly defying the law, as You or I would be if WE defied the “law” so publicly and openly?

This is what happens when DemComs get control of authority.

Black citizens have the right to defend themselves too; what they need to do is self-police the trash elements in their community an stop electing Thugs to office. When you see young thugs walking around with “Stop Snitching” T-shirts on, there is a REAL problem.

NO ONE is taking away MY ability to defend my family, my neighborhood, my LIFE, from these predatory thugs. Be they governmental predatory thugs or ghetto gangbangers.

People DIED for this right.


24 posted on 05/08/2008 8:52:51 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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