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The End of the Clinton Strategy ("Strategy since Feb. 5 never stood much chance of working...")
New York Observer ^ | 05/06/2008 | Steve Kornacki

Posted on 05/07/2008 1:13:51 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: steveyp
The black vote will be truly monolithic for Obama regardless of his ties to terrorists and 20y in the pew of a racist. It is their time.

But that is true in every election, so we haven't lost anything.

However, I think at least 20% of the Democratic base could vote for McCain.

One, many pro-Hillary voters will want to give Hillary another crack in 2012.

Two, moderate Democrats won't trust Obama with national security.

This could turn into a Reagan-Mondale debacle for the Democrats.

21 posted on 05/07/2008 3:18:09 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Luke21
Your post is spot on!

What Hillary would have done that Obama can't do, is run on McCain's Right.

You can see how effective a con job that she has pulled off that she has deceived so many even on FR!

Hillary losing is grace from God.

22 posted on 05/07/2008 3:22:15 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Luke21

Whether people here want to admit it or not, the whole “Operation Chaos” thing amounts to one thing.
Dirty politics.

How folks who pray for and expect honesty in government and then go along with it is light years beyond me.


23 posted on 05/07/2008 3:22:20 AM PDT by djf
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To: djf
I believe she will pull a coup. One way or another, she’s way to valuable to the dims to not be on the ticket. Probably 30 or 40 millions votes worth. There is nobody O could have in the second slot that would bring in as many votes as she could.

She, as Vice President, would nullify his message as changing Washington.

She would also unite the Republican Party behind McCain.

I think Obama is going to try to win the Southwest as the route to the White House, and may put Richardson on the Ticket.

Also with Hillary as VP, Obama would be a 'dead man walking'.

24 posted on 05/07/2008 3:26:04 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: djf
Whether people here want to admit it or not, the whole “Operation Chaos” thing amounts to one thing.

Dirty politics.

...and Juan McPain got the most votes, how? The Hitlery strategy was to have her D folk cross over and vote mcpain. How else can you explain his prominence? This is just payback for giving us no choice.

I gave up on the R party when they nominated Dole. That was another Clintoon choice. They play the game quite will. Pubs have to play to win, as well! I am nothing but an I, now!

25 posted on 05/07/2008 3:27:30 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome..." I. Asimov)
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To: fortheDeclaration

I think a combined ticket would be seen as a “unifying gesture”.

With all the talk about change, having a white female and an Afro-American male on the ticket would be about as much change as you can get.


26 posted on 05/07/2008 3:29:17 AM PDT by djf
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To: WVKayaker

Huh??


27 posted on 05/07/2008 3:31:39 AM PDT by djf
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Always remember that the DemocRAT credentials committee is controlled by Hillary's flying monkeys.

She has a couple of good hole cards to play yet.

28 posted on 05/07/2008 3:38:51 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: djf

How folks who pray for and expect honesty in government and then go along with it is light years beyond me.
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I don’t get it ... you will never get honesty and integrity from a dem controlled gov’t,, they play to win using every opportunity given them by the rules at every level from school board to election board to various gov’t agencies that never investigate or hold accountable wrongdoings by the rats and you want us to operate at some higher standard with our hands tied behind our back? So operation chaos was a success ,, we whipped that old nag Hillary until she broke both cankles with a huge loss and an underwhelming win yesterday, her campaign is flat broke and we may still see her spit one last shot of venom at Obama... it’s all good! And even better McCain may be seeing the light with huge numbers of repubs STILL voting against him...


29 posted on 05/07/2008 3:56:29 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: TheThinker
There seems to be no way to wake up Americans to self-preservaton ... because they can't see past their own needs.

We can thank 75 years of domestic socialism for that. A majority of Americans now looks to the federal government to solve their problems. The idea that they need to pay their own way is completely unknown to them. There's no way a conservative can make a case for victory simply because a majority of the electorate is sucking from the government teat.

I continue to ask the question... how can one sell conservatism anymore? Especially to an electorate that craves government "freebies?" There's no way any of these people are going to dare vote for someone who would take away their gravy train.

30 posted on 05/07/2008 4:00:18 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: dayglored

Did you see Bill behind Hillary last night? He look like a red-faced zombie with his eyes open only to narrow slits. I thought he was going to fall asleep standing up.


31 posted on 05/07/2008 4:11:40 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: Soliton

>> He look like a red-faced zombie with his eyes open only to narrow slits.

Yep, that’s Bill! Coked up, squinting at that nookie in the back row. Sounds like another typical nite on the campaign trail to me!


32 posted on 05/07/2008 6:09:32 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (La Raza hates white folks. And John McCain loves La Raza!)
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To: fortheDeclaration

...”Hillary losing is grace from God.”...

You are so right! I’ve been here for a while, and have never seen folks seemingly supportive of a Clinton (either one). The best thing that can happen to the USA is to finally be rid of the Clinton cancers. After that, we can deal with the flim-flam man Obama.

God delivered America from Al Gore and John Kerry, he will deliver her from Hillary Clinton.


33 posted on 05/07/2008 6:17:28 AM PDT by astounded (The Democrat Party is a Clear and Present Danger to the USA)
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To: Luke21

I personally saw no less than three posts last night (by different FReepers)during primary results that openly said they wanted the Clintons in for eight more years because they were the best choice of the three.


34 posted on 05/07/2008 6:31:41 AM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
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To: Luke21; Behind Liberal Lines; Right_in_Virginia; top 2 toe red

Luke21 has my nomination for post of the week.


35 posted on 05/07/2008 6:35:27 AM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
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To: steveyp

“I don’t get the feeling that he’s thought too much about the day after the election if he’s won.”

I have that same feeling. I felt the same way about Kerry. They only want to WIN — never mind that they don’t have a clue about governing the greatest nation in the world. Winning — that’s all that matters to the RATs. Look how they have run the House and the Senate the past two years!


36 posted on 05/07/2008 6:48:50 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney; Luke21

...and I’ll second that nomination.


37 posted on 05/07/2008 7:25:18 AM PDT by top 2 toe red ("Cackling hillary...makes her sound like she is mentally-illary." Jimmy Kimmel)
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To: Luke21
My ten year FReeper anniversary is in ten days. I salute you for post #13.

I voted for Obama in the NH primary for exactly the reasons you set forth.

Plus, it's not just Hillary!, bad as that is.

She has a huge shadow government of regulator-wannabes, Federal judges in waiting, and underemployed Executive Branch lawyers who are rarin' to go.

BHO cannot be elected, and if by some miracle he were elected, he cannot be effective.

Hillary!, OTOH, is the real deal.

Rush Limbaugh really IS a big fat idiot.

38 posted on 05/07/2008 7:39:59 AM PDT by Jim Noble (ride 'em like you stole 'em)
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To: All
Hooray, Hillary will have to drop out of the race! That means the MSMedia can now begin its slobberfest over the ObamaChrist and focus its attention on attacking McCain! If she had stayed in the race, it would have only served to weaken Obama! Hooray!
39 posted on 05/07/2008 7:43:34 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Clinton's strategy since February 5 never stood much chance of working and allowed room for absolutely no slip-ups. Now it’s over.

I Love It! Might need to say it again....

Clinton’s strategy since February 5 never stood much chance of working and allowed room for absolutely no slip-ups. Now it’s over.

(GRIN!!!) This is a good day. Hopefully, Rush and his Operation Chaos nonsense won't let her back up off the mat.

40 posted on 05/07/2008 8:04:44 AM PDT by wbill
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