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Murder Spike Poses Quandary
Wall Street Journal ^
| May 6, 2008
| Gary Fields
Posted on 05/06/2008 11:04:45 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1
We should move all the prisons to North Dakota.
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posted on
05/06/2008 11:55:24 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: reaganaut1
I’m always amazed at articles about a crime that start out something like, “the alleged shooter was out on parole for armed robbery, for which he has been incarcerated several times”.
How did we ever come to this place?
Also, they got through a whole article about prison culture rising for the past twenty years without mentioning gansta rap, didn’t they?
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posted on
05/06/2008 11:59:39 AM PDT
by
I still care
("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
To: bill1952
I don’t believe this story at all.
There’s no way that anyone could be shot in Washington DC - they have a gun ban.
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posted on
05/06/2008 12:04:15 PM PDT
by
MrB
(You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
To: reaganaut1
There are the usual reasons -- the economy, poverty, gangs and crews, and the availability of firearms... Who writes this crap? Try this on for size, nitwit:
The utter destruction of the black family by the Welfare State. A culture of entitlement fed by liberal appeals to race-hatred and class envy. The degeneration of urban public schools from oases of learning to havens for lazy, unionized bureaucrats. The celebration of violence, sexual promiscuity and and trash-as-art by the left-wing entertainment industry.
Any of that ring a bell, Mr. "Gee-We-Can't-Seem-to-Figure-Out-The-Root Causes"?
More proof that Everything Liberals Know Is Wrong.
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posted on
05/06/2008 12:10:09 PM PDT
by
andy58-in-nh
(Politicians cannot buy votes that are not for sale.)
To: ClearCase_guy
Interesting. I’ll have to think about that idea.
To: andy58-in-nh
"The utter destruction of the black family by the Welfare State. A culture of entitlement fed by liberal appeals to race-hatred and class envy. The degeneration of urban public schools from oases of learning to havens for lazy, unionized bureaucrats. The celebration of violence, sexual promiscuity and and trash-as-art by the left-wing entertainment industry." Don't forget a Supreme Court that declared all people conceived after 1973, "optional."
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posted on
05/06/2008 12:23:04 PM PDT
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: reaganaut1
Maybe he voted for Hillary and the other guy took offense at him dissing B. Hussein and his wife A. Hussey.
To: ClearCase_guy
My position is that anything more than a 10 year sentence is foolish. If the crime is bad, execute the criminal.Sounds sensible to me, but that's the main reason it won't happen. It seems that the people who run everything in this country don't possess a whit of common sense. Their answer to any problem is to pass another law like a gun ban that is impossible to enforce and wouldn't do what was intended even if it could be enforced.
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posted on
05/06/2008 12:43:57 PM PDT
by
epow
("A political career brings out the basest qualities in human nature," Lord Bryce)
To: andy58-in-nh
"The utter destruction of the black family by the Welfare State.
A culture of entitlement fed by liberal appeals to race-hatred and class envy.
The degeneration of urban public schools from oases of learning to havens for lazy, unionized bureaucrats. The celebration of violence, sexual promiscuity and and trash-as-art by the left-wing entertainment industry."
Ding. Stop FR.
We have the FR post of the day.
Thank you - bill
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posted on
05/06/2008 12:57:14 PM PDT
by
bill1952
(I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
To: sig226
“Common sense” is not a part of the left culture. It is one of those useless ornaments of reactionary society like “thought” and “reflection” before Society can advance to the peace and security of artels and collective farms.
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posted on
05/06/2008 1:05:10 PM PDT
by
arthurus
To: reaganaut1
Just getting in the licks before the SC rules that law abiding citizens can carry.
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posted on
05/06/2008 1:06:27 PM PDT
by
CPOSharky
(Vote demoncrat: Kiss goodby to your money, privacy, freedom, and guns.)
To: reaganaut1
Obviously the answer is to ban the thug life mentality. Gun control doesn’t work, the next logical step is to ban the mentality that’s leading to a lot of the crime.
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posted on
05/06/2008 1:10:58 PM PDT
by
faloi
To: ClearCase_guy; epow
I've got an even better idea:
Let's return to the 18th century concept of criminal justice; where jails were only holding places for those awaiting trial. At the trial, an individual is either found innocent or guilty; if guilty of a minor crime he is punished by spending time in the public stocks, where the citizens may mock, spit at, and otherwise make the convict miserable; or a public flogging. After which the individual would be released. If guilty of a serious crime, or a repeat offender for thievery etc, the punishment was hanging. Recidivism rates were very low!
Plus, the taxpayers did not have to pay for lengthy incarcerations!
To: andy58-in-nh
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posted on
05/06/2008 1:15:57 PM PDT
by
mpackard
(Proud mama of a Sailor.)
To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
If guilty of a serious crime, or a repeat offender for thievery etc, the punishment was hanging. Recidivism rates were very low!No doubt. As I said before, criminals don't usually commit any more crimes after they assume room temperature.
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posted on
05/06/2008 1:22:16 PM PDT
by
epow
("A political career brings out the basest qualities in human nature," Lord Bryce)
To: arthurus
>Common sense is not a part of the left culture.<
These days I’m not too sure that Common sense is a part of either the left or the right culture.
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posted on
05/06/2008 1:39:42 PM PDT
by
B4Ranch
(( If you ever need a gun but don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.))
To: bill1952; mpackard
Thanks for the comments, guys. It seems as though I read at least one article every day in which the (invariably liberal) author defines the causes of Problem “X” in such a way that the only possible solution is more money and more government. Old story, I suppose: when the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail.
But it's something more than just a failure of imagination that makes liberals blind to the damage they themselves have done: it's the ideology itself. Liberalism comes complete with its own cocoon: an unshakable faith in the transformative power of Good Intentions, as if the nature of reality can be molded by mere desire. Worse, those who deny such possibility are given the Heretic treatment and castigated as enemies of all that is good. And this is the very spirit that dominates white liberal discussion of the state of our inner cities (especially Detroit, Cleveland, Philly, and Baltimore). Within the (black-governed) cities themselves - corruption and cynicism reign supreme. Unless something changes - and soon - it does not bode well for the future happiness of the inhabitants.
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posted on
05/07/2008 6:01:26 AM PDT
by
andy58-in-nh
(Politicians cannot buy votes that are not for sale.)
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