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CA: Don't buy that the state is going broke
OC Register ^ | 5/5/08 | Editorial

Posted on 05/05/2008 6:53:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Taxpayers increasingly are told that state government is going broke, and vital services must be drastically slashed unless new taxes are imposed.

Here's the truth: Even with tax revenue falling below projections, even in an economic downturn, state government will have more money to spend next year than it has this year – about a billion dollars more, ...

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It bears repeating: Sacramento will have more money to spend next year than it had this year.

This is vital because Democratic legislators insist taxpayers must make greater sacrifices, even though every dollar counts more than ever for most Californians as the economy hovers just above recession. ...

A poll by the Public Policy Institute of California, released last week, found the economy to be Californians' top concern – 36 percent of those polled. By comparison, 12 percent ranked education and schools as their top concern. Nevertheless, we can expect Sacramento Democrats to whip up support for tax increases by emphasizing concern for schools and downplay Californians' greater economic concerns.

We believe the public is smart enough to see through the scare tactics, and to realize tax increases would be only a further drag on the economy.

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The only reason to increase taxes, Mr. Villines said, would be to continue to expand government programs. Assembly Republicans propose to fund schools with more money than they received this year, without raising taxes, by making cuts in other state programs.

We find this far more palatable – and fairer – than imposing new taxes to feed a bloated state government that Mr. Villines says already has increased its revenue 32 percent in four years.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: broke; california; villines
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The only reason to increase taxes, Mr. Villines said, would be to continue to expand government programs.

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It bears repeating. It is called socialism.

1 posted on 05/05/2008 6:53:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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We believe the public is smart enough to see through the scare tactics, and to realize tax increases would be only a further drag on the economy.

yet , many of these same voters will also elect and re-elect more of the same socialists. One helluva note.


2 posted on 05/05/2008 6:56:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!)
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To: NormsRevenge

If I weren’t afraid of getting into trouble with the moderators I’d say something like “If Sacramento were a smoking hole in the ground this state would be better off!”, except that I wouldn’t say that because I don’t want to get into trouble.


3 posted on 05/05/2008 6:59:35 PM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: NormsRevenge

My recommendation is hundreds or thousands of auditors go through every State-run program (California) including the schools and the government to expose all the fraud and corruption. IMO, millions, perhaps, billions are being swallowed up by graft and corruption. Same goes for all Federal programs. The American taxpayers are being cheated out of billions of dollars on the state and federal level and no one cares.


4 posted on 05/05/2008 7:00:04 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: NormsRevenge

they need to reverse comrade gov brown’s unionization of all state employees.


5 posted on 05/05/2008 7:13:57 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Of course it's going broke! D'UH!

If you consistently spend more than you take in, it's inevitable.
If you hide the items being spent on, the doofus loser teachers can whine about the "children!"
Finally, if you push current expenses forward (and pay interest for the priviledge), eventually the piper wins.

The author of this piece evidently learned math in Californica, too.

6 posted on 05/05/2008 7:29:55 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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"Assembly Republicans propose to fund schools with more money than they received this year, without raising taxes, by making cuts in other state programs."

Please, please cut some of these useless programs.

7 posted on 05/05/2008 7:34:17 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: NormsRevenge

Those poor pitiful citizens. They don’t realize that it is TOO LATE in California. It is AGAINST THE LAW to fail to increase spending....with mandated spending it MUST increase, by LAW, or people will go to JAIL. It cannot now be changed - it is too late.


8 posted on 05/05/2008 7:46:34 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: NormsRevenge
I read an article today suggesting that the state will be increasingly socialistic as time goes on. California already has a majority of "minorities", now totalling 57%. The author cites a researcher who contends that 49% of CA adolescents have one immigrant parent. The white population, which historically has dominated voting in the state, is aging and moving away, depleting the pool of skilled workers. With the one third drop-out rate for highschoolers, it's dubious whether there will be adequate workers to replace them. Businesses may have to draft retirees or simply leave the state.

As the demographics continue to change with time it seems inevitable that the state will move further and further to the left.

9 posted on 05/05/2008 7:46:34 PM PDT by Tea in the Harbor (The fault is not in our stars, but in ourselves.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The state wasn’t going broke, but when property taxes went up from high sales prices, they irrationally grew their budget and state employees.

Give no raises for three years. Fire 80 percent of the new positions created in state government and we will be in a surplus.


10 posted on 05/05/2008 7:48:42 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Taxpayers increasingly are told that state government is going broke, and vital services must be drastically slashed unless new taxes are imposed.

Good idea.

Starve the beast.

11 posted on 05/05/2008 7:58:22 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: NormsRevenge

State health programs and increasingly elaborate buerocracy at all levels is responsible for this.

A state manager’s solution to any problem is to hire an “expert” to take care of it. These experts then call meetings with other experts and they all generate nifty reports showing that, guess what, that more experts need to be hired.


12 posted on 05/05/2008 8:15:21 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Hey Red,

The FBI tried for years to get Willie Brown on corruption. Failed miserably.

The past five years they been tryin' to get pistol packin' Don Perata. Still need more time to get an indictment.

Not that these traitors aren't corrupt, it's that they are world class at it.

The only way to save California is to drive all the employers, producers and taxpayers out of the state, and let the unions discuss who "gets" among themselves.

13 posted on 05/05/2008 8:33:44 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
My recommendation is hundreds or thousands of auditors go through every State-run program (California) including the schools and the government to expose all the fraud and corruption. IMO, millions, perhaps, billions are being swallowed up by graft and corruption. Same goes for all Federal programs. The American taxpayers are being cheated out of billions of dollars on the state and federal level and no one cares.

I do not doubt that fraud and corruption are substantial, the budget will not be balanced by this emphasis. Fraud and corruption is an easy target. It provides an illusion that the budget does not have structural problems.

Public employee pensions and services to illegal aliens are good places to start. The retirement age should be raised to 65. Reduced benefits should be provided to retirements at earlier ages. The defined benefit pension plan should be eliminated for new hires. All services except federally mandated services should be stopped for illegal aliens.

Beyond these areas, all areas of welfare spending and income redistribution should be carefully studied. All benefits should be time limited with work requirements. No benefits for able bodied people without work requirements.

Cutting spending is not enough. Growth related policies must replace the punishing socialism. The state income tax should be cut by 50%. Capital gains and dividend taxes should reduced.Environmental regulations, especially those unique to California, should be studied and eliminated in many cases. Restrictions against power generation must be eliminated.

With a combination of reduced taxes, regulatory reform, and reduced spending on non essential services, California can florish.

14 posted on 05/05/2008 8:49:48 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: businessprofessor

As long as California remains a haven of Liberal wackjobs, it will never flourish. Liberals will destroy California as well as the nation.


15 posted on 05/05/2008 8:53:38 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: NormsRevenge
It bears repeating. It is called socialism.

Centuries ago, it went by the name of "mercantilism." In some foreign States, it falls under the guise of "theocracy." And, here in the USA, some politicians call it "the common good."

In every case, the problem is a small group of busybodies (elites) who believe that individuals are not qualified to make decisions for themselves and that central planning of some sort should be implemented to create heaven on Earth. (Occasionally religion is used as justification for such planning.) But, in every case, the results are always the same.

16 posted on 05/05/2008 9:25:17 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Republican...because not everyone can be on welfare.)
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To: NormsRevenge; calcowgirl

I’m trying to remember what it is about Mr. Villines that makes me distrust his conservatism...


17 posted on 05/06/2008 2:18:10 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Out of the dung of adversity, spring the seeds of opportunity! America will always be exceptional!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

He has had a lapse or two but overall, he is ackerman and maybe a little more conservative-wise. stopping tax hikes will be the real test and who caves first.


18 posted on 05/06/2008 2:29:41 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!)
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he is ackerman and maybe a little more conservative-wise.

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not that that says much about ackerman. he held ground in any areas but also had a lapse or two.

Not real photogenic like the GUb or Tom, could have been a little more vocal.


19 posted on 05/06/2008 2:31:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Thanks for the review and analysis!


20 posted on 05/07/2008 10:49:14 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Out of the dung of adversity, spring the seeds of opportunity! America will always be exceptional!!!)
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