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1 posted on 05/05/2008 6:18:43 PM PDT by brwnsuga
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If one student got an “A”....as cited here...then I think we’ve got a problem....I really don’t want any of the D and F students to be MY DOCTOR.


2 posted on 05/05/2008 6:22:40 PM PDT by goodnesswins (20 is the new 10)
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“high-quality education for an ethnically and culturally diverse student population,”

Sigh. Quotas in grades based upon race and/or ethnicity.

My take, anyhow.


3 posted on 05/05/2008 6:24:10 PM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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Just damn....


4 posted on 05/05/2008 6:24:43 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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I’m all for a professor who isn’t afraid to flunk a lousy student, but this is ridiculous: “Citing seven classes in which 83 to 95 percent of his students got a D or F...”

He’s not teaching at MIT.


5 posted on 05/05/2008 6:25:16 PM PDT by dangus
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Gotta keep those tuition checks rolling in.
6 posted on 05/05/2008 6:25:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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Posted just before this:

“Success Is Built On Work Ethic, Not Grievances (SOWELL)”

Dr. Sowell gets it.


7 posted on 05/05/2008 6:26:13 PM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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And what did they say to or do about the flunking students?

Actually go look at the school work that failed? I doubt it. It's all the teachers fault.

That colleges actually offer remedial math and English AND accept students who need those classes still astounds me.

8 posted on 05/05/2008 6:26:37 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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What happens in a world where everyone is told they are experts in everything (i.e. they are passed when they actually failed) when in fact, no one in the world is an expert in anything? I don't think I want to live in that world.

- JoMa

9 posted on 05/05/2008 6:27:43 PM PDT by joma89
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I feel for the guy, having gone through the same thing when I taught in an inner city public school in Dallas several years ago. The first 6 weeks I first taught ended and I had to prepare my grades—not a single one of my 30 or so students passed! (Bear in mind that many of them were illegal immigrants.)

I went to my mentor who totally freaked out—turns out I was required by DISTRICT POLICY to pass EVERY single student. I was totally shocked!! I was to substitute their real grade if they weren’t passing with a 70, which was passing. This was even for students who came into my classroom (4th graders) with no school supplies (although many had Air Jordan sneakers and lovely Raiders coats) and would stick their feet up on the desk and not do a darn thing the whole day (except for get in trouble) and never turned in a single piece of work—to this day it still galls me that those children were cheated like that. It just reinforced their ‘entitlements’ mindset. :-(


11 posted on 05/05/2008 6:28:13 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative with no dog in the presidential race now *sigh*)
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There is something wrong when the majority of students flunk a course. Either the professor stinks, or more stringent prerequisites should be applied so that only students who are likely to pass enroll in the first place, or the material of the course needs to be split up into two or more courses. Or some combination of the above


12 posted on 05/05/2008 6:30:07 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." — George Orwell)
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Five students have left their opinions at ratemyprofessors.com:


13 posted on 05/05/2008 6:37:01 PM PDT by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: The Paucity of Hope)
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20 posted on 05/05/2008 6:46:35 PM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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Links to the course materials:

http://sst.nsu.edu/coursematerials.php

Click on the name of a course to see course requirements.

At the top of each course page are links to Chapters, Syllabus, Objectives, Labs, Practice Area, Lecture Notes, Sample Tests.

For some courses, the links are to extensive material on the textbook’s Web site. Other courses link to the prof’s own materials.

I’m guessing that the students have poor reading comprehension, did not take challenging science courses in high school, and sailed through K-12.


22 posted on 05/05/2008 6:48:18 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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In contrast, James said, she easily received an A in another class. "Yes, it looks nice when you get out with a 4.0 GPA, but then you go to medical school and you know nothing."

someone gets it.
24 posted on 05/05/2008 7:02:31 PM PDT by stylin19a
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Every student doesn't learn in the same way

I was willing to consider the possibility that the guy is just too tough on them but the above statement from the university is telling. When they pull this one out, it is ALWAYS a dodge. A cheap and disingenuous way to say, "Shut up and trust us. We're experts."

25 posted on 05/05/2008 7:05:03 PM PDT by irv
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Dude, I wish I were in school now. With my motivation, advanced techiniques of slacking off, and drinking habits, I'd earn a Ph.D in no time! "Doctor Revolting cat! will be your surgeon today."
36 posted on 05/05/2008 7:58:15 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (You're gonna cry 96 Tears on my Pillow!)
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I am not going to look up Norfolk State (but probably should) however I can probably make an guess as to the adminstration’s motivation.

Norfolk State is probably not in the top 20 of the U.S. News & World Report rankings. One of the killers for lower tier schools is “retention.” That is code for the percentage of first-time, full-time freshman that graduate in six years. My guess is that NSU isn’t close to the 80% or so of top tier schools. You can’t retain students who flunk out.


40 posted on 05/05/2008 8:06:35 PM PDT by PrincessB ("I am an expert on my own opinion." - Dave Ramsey)
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“Aird thinks the phenomenon is due in part to the evolution of a “consumer culture” in higher education.”

....the attitude is “I am the customer, you must please me”...the kid turns their work in late, cuts class, takes cell phone calls in class, flunks the mid term ect. and then bitches when they get a D....we gotta bring the draft back.


43 posted on 05/05/2008 8:27:04 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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Academia is selling America into the trash heap of “thirdworldism” by failing to demand academic performance from perfectly capable students.

Why - because teachers and professors are almost universally liberal and not working for what they get is a religion to them!

48 posted on 05/05/2008 9:16:01 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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It’s not possible to fully evaluate such student failures without looking at the course materials, exams and assignments, etc. to see if the instructor expectatons seem reasonable for an introductory course in that subject. It does sound like he is facing classrooms full of unprepared and non-performing students, but it is possible to crush just about any group of freshmen in the country if you make the exams hard enough and/or present so much material and such a difficult level that few freshmen anywhere would pass. Still, it doesn’t sound to me like that’s what is happening here — from the administrator comments it sounds to me as though they probably do have an extremely unprepared and ill-performing group of students, and the administration simply wants to keep passing bodies through the mill to keep the $$$ flowing.


50 posted on 05/05/2008 9:59:08 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama: My 1930s Foreign Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Social Policy!)
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