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1 posted on 05/04/2008 10:37:41 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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2 posted on 05/04/2008 10:49:43 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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3 posted on 05/04/2008 10:51:19 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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Thanks! Excellent article.

I remember in the late 70s Israel wanted to start housing projects in the Gaza strip. No, it wasn't to be homes for early "settlers" but for the Gaza Arabs so that they would be able to move out of the refugee camps. However, Israel was condemned by the UN (via its Arab and East-bloc majorities) because they were building on "occupied territories". In reality of course the Arab states were worried that their hostages - the refugees - would no longer be hostages, and even start to understand who were their real enemies.

From the article you posted it appears that the Arab refugees did understand that in the late 40s:

“We know who our enemies are,” they will say, and they are referring to their Arab brothers who, they declare, persuaded them unnecessarily to leave their homes. . . . I even heard it said that many of the refugees would give a welcome to the Israelis if they were to come in and take the district over.

It was quite interesting to see - but you wouldn't see it unless you did not rely on our MSM - how many Arabs applied for Israeli papers after the Annapolis conference. They know what will happen once the IDF is withdrawn from Judea and Samaria.

4 posted on 05/04/2008 11:04:51 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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In a famous 1923 article, Jabotinsky voiced his readiness “to take an oath binding ourselves and our descendants that we shall never do anything contrary to the principle of equal rights, and that we shall never try to eject anyone.”

Compare that to the heartbeat of the antisemitism prevalent in the world that its the terrorists 'Absolute Right' to attack, maim, injure, sabotage and overall kill & exterminate every Jew while giving those who attack Israel a free pass everytime!!

The Jews can live alongside and even tolerate Arabs within their population but the reverse cannot be tolerated especially since they want to destroy Israel.

5 posted on 05/04/2008 11:23:47 PM PDT by prophetic (God, let Obama speak utter foolishness and confound the wisdom of his counselors)
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6 posted on 05/04/2008 11:30:43 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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7 posted on 05/04/2008 11:36:55 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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8 posted on 05/04/2008 11:54:09 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Vote for my German Shepherds!!!! They're smarter than what's running!!)
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Anyone that would like to have this in a Word Document can access it by clicking below.  (Exists in the Word 2003 format)

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9 posted on 05/05/2008 12:09:16 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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11 posted on 05/05/2008 12:15:24 AM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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Before the formation of Israel, Palestinian Arabs seemed to get along with Jews. Now, propaganda over decades has poisoned many of them.

I wonder how many still refuse to hate the Jews? I always assumed that the majority wanted to destroy the Jews. I'm not so sure now.

12 posted on 05/05/2008 12:20:09 AM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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13 posted on 05/05/2008 12:53:05 AM PDT by JDoutrider (No 2nd Amendment... Know Tyranny)
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I'd rather see a comprehensive history of this region and period that was written by a curious Japanese or Bolivian -- someone who didn't have a dog in the fight.

You're talking about the Middle East, where 75% of the truth is available on every street corner, but going for the last 25% will get you killed.

Everybody has got a story he wants to sell you.

14 posted on 05/05/2008 1:36:25 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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The Nakba was self-inflicted. The Arabs left voluntarily and not because the Jews forced them to flee. And their subsequent reception in Arab lands is in striking contrast to Israel's reception of Jews from around the planet. If blame is to be laid at anyone's feet, its at the feet of Palestinian leaders who profited handsomely from marinating their people in Jew hatred rather than trying improve their lot. That is why the conflict remains unresolved to this very day.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

15 posted on 05/05/2008 1:45:29 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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17 posted on 05/05/2008 3:35:32 AM PDT by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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19 posted on 05/05/2008 4:25:44 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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20 posted on 05/05/2008 4:41:22 AM PDT by opus86
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22 posted on 05/05/2008 4:59:00 AM PDT by safisoft
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“FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL”, by Joan Peters

A MOST definitive work on the subject.
Comprehensive and exhaustive with (IIRC) a 150pg bibliography. Many muslim sources are also cited.

http://www.amazon.com/Time-Immemorial-Arab-Jewish-Conflict-Palestine/dp/0963624202

23 posted on 05/05/2008 7:33:50 AM PDT by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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“in every cabinet where the prime minister is a Jew, the vice-premiership shall be offered to an Arab and vice-versa.”

This kind of naive arrangement doesn't work. See Lebanon.

On the face of it, Ben-Gurion’s hope rested on reasonable grounds. An inflow of Jewish immigrants and capital after World War I had revived Palestine’s hitherto static condition and raised the standard of living of its Arab inhabitants well above that in the neighboring Arab states.

More naive thinking. Many people would rather have a rotting country that belongs exclusively to them than a thriving country that pretty much belongs to someone else. I don't begrudge the Arabs this. Jews should think the same way when they meekly accept foreign countries telling us how to run our country, for fear of America cutting off their aid & European boycotts. Better a mat of my own than a house shared, as Mizrahim say.

& so this should be no surprise:

On the contrary . . . with almost mathematical precision the betterment of the economic situation in Palestine [has] meant the deterioration of the political situation.

26 posted on 05/05/2008 10:05:18 AM PDT by forkinsocket
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One of the best articles on the subject I've ever read!

This ping list is not author-specific for articles I'd like to share. Some for the perfect moral clarity, some for provocative thoughts; or simply interesting articles I'd hate to miss myself. (I don't have to agree with the author all 100% to feel the need to share an article.) I will try not to abuse the ping list and not to annoy you too much, but on some days there is more of the good stuff that is worthy of attention. You can see the list of articles I pinged to lately  on  my page.
You are welcome in or out, just freepmail me (and note which PING list you are talking about). Besides this one, I keep 2 separate PING lists for my favorite authors Victor Davis Hanson and Orson Scott Card.  

29 posted on 05/06/2008 5:38:51 AM PDT by Tolik
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