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Ethanol defended by President Bush
LA Times ^ | 5/4/08 | James Gerstenzang

Posted on 05/04/2008 4:24:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

MARYLAND HEIGHTS, MO. -- President Bush on Friday defended his emphasis on ethanol to help the nation meet its energy needs even though increased production of the corn-based biofuel has been blamed for contributing to sharp increases in food prices.

"As you know, I'm a ethanol person," he said, explaining his belief that it can help reduce U.S. dependence on oil. "It makes sense for America to be growing energy."

--snip--

On the day the government announced the loss of 20,000 payroll jobs in April, Bush said he recognized the nation was in a difficult period, "but this economy is going to come on."

He also chastised Congress for blocking his initiatives, including a stalled free trade agreement with Colombia, his plan to open Alaska lands and coastal waters to oil and gas exploration, and his proposal to overhaul the government's mortgage program.

He also shifted into a reflective mien, saying to a worker in Dallas with whom he was conversing in a demonstration of a videoconferencing system: "Tell everybody down there, in about 10 months, I'm coming home."

With that end of his administration in sight, the president's remarks brought into focus the flaring issues he faces: the economy, energy costs and, now, food prices.

The president for several years has been promoting the use of ethanol -- which is largely made from corn -- to alleviate the nation's shortage of domestically produced energy.

Critics have focused on the new demand for corn as a factor in driving up food prices.

Bush acknowledged that ethanol has contributed to higher food prices, but said it was not the main reason. He also listed increased energy costs, which affect transportation and fertilizer prices; drought and other weather-related problems; and increased demand stemming from greater prosperity in once-poor nations. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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To: Spouting Horn
ArabLaughing

http://www.slate.com/id/2122961/

21 posted on 05/04/2008 4:48:31 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Critics have focused on the new demand for corn as a factor in driving up food prices."

Many FR posters are letting the MSM drive their thinking again. Read the articles, look for the quotes ("). I have been a critic of using corn for ethanol too, but the President long ago called for support for research to produce ethanol from non-food, i.e. waste sources, such as sawgrass, so that food sources would not be used and ethanol would be cheaper to produce.

Do you see the power the MSM has in your life? All of us fall victim to it. They leave out critical information and insert text without quotes in the middle of quoted information. Many MSM writers are graduates of left-wing universities and have been taught by left-wing professors (aka Vietnam era draft dodgers with student and teaching deferments). They hate Bush. They hate FREEPERS. They take their greatest pride in manipulating quotes, texts and photos in order to lead people to the the left-wing supported conclusion. This article mentioned critics of the use of corn for ethanol. Why didn't it mention the President's support for research into non-food ethanol sources? QUESTION MSM MATERIAL! Go to Whitehouse.gov and search the White House positions on topics.

22 posted on 05/04/2008 4:53:43 PM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: Terpfen
Bush pushed for ANWR drilling multiple times. It never went through. Blame Congress, not Bush.

Right, but he should pounce on this! Instead of saying "I'm a Ethanol person...", he should reiterate the need for drilling our own oil! Nail it on the dems! He is behaving like he is all hunky-dory with ethanol.

23 posted on 05/04/2008 4:54:16 PM PDT by SolidWood
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To: Terpfen
I just want to thank congress for that well thought out energy bill that was passed last year. (SIC,SIC) NO new oil wells, oil refineries, hydroelectric dams, coal or nuclear power plants, just use less energy and (BTW) we are going to allow use of more food for fuel. Again, I would like to take the time to Thank You when I get the chance to vote come November.
24 posted on 05/04/2008 4:58:02 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Shouldn’t this practice be stopped immediately, so that we can have *both* food, and their precious ethanol?

McCain wants to stop the traditional subsidies, but not the ethanol subsidy. My guess is that farmers would probably use the non-subsidized land to grow...corn for ethanol! (But it sounds good in a stump speech.)

McCain also opposes drilling in ANWR.

We are, uh, what's the word? Oh, yes: screwed.

25 posted on 05/04/2008 4:58:10 PM PDT by browardchad ("We are all mavericks now." -- Rush Limbaugh)
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To: NormsRevenge
"As you know, I'm a ethanol person," he said,

I thought he quit drinking.

26 posted on 05/04/2008 4:59:58 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: LZ_Bayonet

Good point re: the MSM.

The sad thing still is that the use of corn at this time when it is a hot commodity as a fuel has rippled across a number of other product areas, not sure how much foresight or lack thereof has contributed or how much the MSM can be blamed for that, but as you mention, you can get ethanol from a number of sources..

I would prefer to drill domestically and use good old crude myself until we do have real and viable low cost energy source that doesn’t need to be subsidized in perpetuity if at all.

Been living around it all my life and couldn’t imagine life without it.


27 posted on 05/04/2008 5:01:18 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... Home at last, Thank God almighty I am home at last!)
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To: All

Best place to grow plants for ethanol and solve the problem: Years ago, I toured the German countryside. There were acres upon acres upon acres of yellow flowers. Then, I was told those yellow flowering plants were “hops” for making beer. If Germans stopped making/drinking beer, those acres could be the answer to ethanol production. Surely Germans would give up beer, right?


28 posted on 05/04/2008 5:01:23 PM PDT by Marcella (Will work in my rose garden (with wine) and not listen to McCain.)
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To: Amendment10

Here’s hoping we can go back and mine all the landfills across this nation as the research you linked to comes into wide usage.. that ought keep a few lights on and vehicles moving down the roads for a few years.


29 posted on 05/04/2008 5:03:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... Home at last, Thank God almighty I am home at last!)
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To: Marcella

So you’re saying we’re all gonna have to give up our cars?


30 posted on 05/04/2008 5:05:06 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Terpfen
Bush pushed for ANWR drilling multiple times. It never went through. Blame Congress, not Bush.

Exactly! 

"He also chastised Congress for blocking his initiatives, including a stalled free trade agreement with Colombia, his plan to open Alaska lands and coastal waters to oil and gas exploration, and his proposal to overhaul the government's mortgage program."

31 posted on 05/04/2008 5:05:18 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: savedbygrace

No, don’t have to give up cars. We’ll “pressure” Germany to give up beer and plant ethanol making plants and that will work since we’ve done so well to “pressure” Iran to stop nuclear enrichment.


32 posted on 05/04/2008 5:10:42 PM PDT by Marcella (Will work in my rose garden (with wine) and not listen to McCain.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Well I guess at least we can use two quotes interchangeably now:

"Food for thought"

"Fuel for thought"

33 posted on 05/04/2008 5:11:07 PM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: LZ_Bayonet
QUESTION MSM MATERIAL!

I always do!  Especially during election year.   

34 posted on 05/04/2008 5:11:21 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: LZ_Bayonet

It doesn’t matter. Bush is still an absolute MORON to be jumping on board the ethanol express just as everyone else is abandoning ship.

All the liberals I know are already blaming this fiasco on none other than Bush. The liberal propaganda is already being developed: The ethanol crisis is the fault of George Bush and conservative profiteers. And with Bush using the bully pulpit this way, everyone is going to swallow their story, hook, line, and sinker.

He’s making it easy for them. He is a nice guy, but he’s a political moron with a tin ear.


35 posted on 05/04/2008 5:16:31 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NormsRevenge
"As you know, I'm a ethanol person," he said, explaining his belief that it can help reduce U.S. dependence on oil. "It makes sense for America to be growing energy."

"As you know, I sniff airplane model glue for a hobby." If Bush had said that, would anyone see the difference?

36 posted on 05/04/2008 5:24:50 PM PDT by stevem
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To: steveab

“How many gallons of water does it take to produce one gallon of ethanol?”

1700


37 posted on 05/04/2008 5:45:48 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Shouldn't the libs love a Hunter Thompson ticket in 08?)
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To: SolidWood
He is behaving like he is all hunky-dory with ethanol.

As with Social Security reform, he stepped up to the ANWR plate, took a swing and a miss, and said the hell with it. I guess it is more interesting to be "a wartime president" (BTW what ever happend to the "War Czar" he appointed? Never heard from him again.)

A blind man on a fast horse could tell we're being railroaded on ethanol, but yeah, Dubya has climbed on board--next stop, Kyoto. What a disappointment.

38 posted on 05/04/2008 5:50:21 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SolidWood
If Ethanol is such a great thing, use non-food plants instead of corn or sugar.

Ethanol is a great thing--in Brazil, where they have a gazillion tons of sugar and dirt cheap labor costs. IF W really was "an ethanol guy" he would arrange to drop the tariffs against foreign sugar and import it from Brazil. They're not going to need it for long because ironically, they also now have major oil deposits to develop--off shore in the Atlantic, where we would be too delicate and sensitive about the sea life to explore.

39 posted on 05/04/2008 5:58:10 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: mnehrling; Terpfen
Bush pushed for ANWR drilling multiple times. It never went through. Blame Congress, not Bush.

This little fact will be lost on most.

Nothing has been lost. It's just that those who have not lost the ability to observe and evaluate President Bush objectively are honest enough to acknowledge the "little fact" that his "pushes" were merely little pushes, gentle nudges at best...

There have been very few issues during Bush's term in office for which he has actually roused himself, become passionately engaged, made the attempt to take his case directly to the American people over the heads of his opponents and the media, and actually fought tooth and nail for what he claimed to believe.

And, unfortunately, with only a few exceptions such as tax cuts and the necessity for seeing through the Long War, the few things he has fought all-out for, e.g. amnesty for illegals, will prove to be monumentally disastrous for the country.

40 posted on 05/04/2008 6:04:32 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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